Best 9mm carry round

[LaVere]

I'm using Federal Personal Defence 9mm luger 147 grain Hydra-Shok JHP.
I never had to shoot someone with it so I realy don't know. I would think any of the top name brand personal defence brands will be fine.

[sentinel]

I've settled on the Federal 124+P HST for use in both my MK9 and HK P30.

[bikerbill]

I've always liked shooting hornady, and I'm currently carrying their new Critical Defense round in my PM9 ... very accurate, not a huge kick and I like the idea of no clogging with heavier clothing ..

[wagon]

Here's one report, the poster used a PM9, among others: Day at the range with the New Kahr PM 9 MM - PerfectUnion BBS

Check out the following web site:

Best Choices for Self Defense Ammo

Note that there is not much data on the performance of any bullet when fired from a 3 inch barrel. If anyone has any, I would sure like to see it.

[500KV]

Here's one report, the poster used a PM9, among others: Day at the range with the New Kahr PM 9 MM - PerfectUnion BBS

Good pic's.
That guy has some excellent camera equipment to go along with his excellent guns.

[Cappy]

Check out the following web site:

Best Choices for Self Defense Ammo

Note that there is not much data on the performance of any bullet when fired from a 3 inch barrel. If anyone has any, I would sure like to see it.

Some real good data there -- Thanks!

[Mdubtech]

defense ammo muzzle flash

So I saw a video on youtube comparing the muzzle flash from self defense ammo.
Gold sabers vs hydrashoks.
The video was at dusk and clearly showed the hydrashoks much lower flash than the sabers. This upset me since I like the 147grn gold sabers in my pm9 vs the lighter 124grn hydra's. So I took some of each to the range and had them turn off all but the lighting behind me. I loaded 3 of each and observed the flash. To my delight all of the sabers had virtually no flash! Now the hydrashoks had a flash the size of a tennis ball, not what you want at night! I hope this helps anyone considering either. I know I will be loading the sabers in both my Kahrs! Anyone else done this kind of test?

[jocko]

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A New Mexico Police Officer I teach CCW classes with shot the FBI ammunition protocols and found that only bonded core bullets will survive passage through auto glass (windshields). In our classes we recommend bonded core; Gold Dot, Federal Tactical, the new Winchester bonded bullets and etc.

evidently didn't shoot corbon all copper barnes bullet dpx ammo. It will go through windshields with ease. :19:

[Deputy]

You should NOT be buying ANY ammo based on whether it shoots through glass or not. Why? Because you should NOT be shooting at glass at all. You should also NOT be shooting at moving vehicles. The only time you are justified at shooting at a vehicle is if your life is in imminent danger and you are unable to get out of the way. Police are taught this in their academy. At least, police that are worth a damn. New Mexico has a bunch of morons running the state, county, and local police. Pretty much everyone in New Mexico knows the cops are a bad joke.

[jocko]

ur dead right

You should NOT be buying ANY ammo based on whether it shoots through glass or not. Why? Because you should NOT be shooting at glass at all. You should also NOT be shooting at moving vehicles. The only time you are justified at shooting at a vehicle is if your life is in imminent danger and you are unable to get out of the way. Police are taught this in their academy. At least, police that are worth a damn. New Mexico has a bunch of morons running the state, county, and local police. Pretty much everyone in New Mexico knows the cops are a bad joke.

I hope your realize my comment was only to dispute that there is a round that will indeed penetrate auto glass as the angles of the vehicle.There are probably even more than one round that will do that also, not just corbon but I do know the Barnes all copper bullet is one awesome bullet I do know that when corbon introduced the dpx round they demonstrated it at one of the police adademies and I am hard pressed to tell you what caliber they demonstrated it with.

[Deputy]

I hope your realize my comment was only to dispute that there is a round that will indeed penetrate auto glass as the angles of the vehicle.There are probably even more than one round that will do that also, not just corbon but I do know the Barnes all copper bullet is one awesome bullet I do know that when corbon introduced the dpx round they demonstrated it at one of the police adademies and I am hard pressed to tell you what caliber they demonstrated it with.

It really doesn't matter. Why post glass penetration as some kind of advantage AT ALL? It's as meaningless as posting data about blowing holes in engine blocks. And it gives the uninformed the idea that shooting at glass is a good idea.

[jocko]

it might indeed mean something to law enforcement people. To me, it means nothing..

[Deputy]

it might indeed mean something to law enforcement people. To me, it means nothing..

Understood.

[MisterAnderson]

Because you should NOT be shooting at glass at all.

There are situations (car jacking for instance) where you may be forced to shoot through glass, from inside a vehicle, if you are unable to escape.

We can debate how likely it is, but the fact is that situations arise where shooting through glass may be necessary.

That said, I do not carry a round based on how well it penetrates through glass or various cover.

[Deputy]

There are situations (car jacking for instance) where you may be forced to shoot through glass, from inside a vehicle, if you are unable to escape.

We can debate how likely it is, but the fact is that situations arise where shooting through glass may be necessary.

That said, I do not carry a round based on how well it penetrates through glass or various cover.

First off lethal force for car jackings is only legal in SOME states. Secondly, if you are inside the car you are in control of a 2 ton weapon, why fart around with a little pellet? Run the SOB over, and if he's still alive, go back and run him over a few more times for good measure. But mainly, be aware of your surroundings and you won't have to worry about car jackings. BTW....have you ever discahrged a firearm while INSIDE a vehicle? A suggestion...don't. Unless you want to blow out both eardrums.