Any issue with repeatedly cycling a round?

[East River Guide]

OK, so I'm on board with carrying one in the chamber, but I have kids in the house and even though I keep everything in a safe I still think I should store my guns unloaded. This basically means I have to repeatedly load and unload the top round in the mag. Maybe not a big deal for periods I am going to the range frequently but sometimes it may stretch out longer than I would like between trips. Anyone think the repeated cycling of a round can cause an issue? Anyone have a way of dealing with it if it is?

[Bawanna]

The only potential issue is bullet set back. Some brands and some guns don't have much issue with it, others it doesn't take much to push the bullet back into the case after repeated chamberings. I usually will only rechamber once or twice and if the cartridge still looks good I'll rotate it down in the mag. If it's questionable it gets set aside for the next range day.

The only other concern is when loading and unloading that's the potential time for an accident. I never unload my carry guns, I keep them in my control or out of reach. I have no young children and rarely have any visit so you may require a different approach. I have set places where I always put them, if it's not on me it's in that spot without fail. A high closet shelf if you have young ones is pretty safe. When your not home and they are snooping around, it should be on you. If you leave it at home then you better do the unload thing.

[jocko]

very well stated bawanna, I could not have stated it better--well maybe alittle better but not much!!!!

[CJB]

As Bawanna stated - bullet set back. I cull mine for range use - can get away with that for low pressure rounds like 45's. On 9's and 40's.... maybe not.

[JFootin]

The three of you missed something: he keeps everything in a SAFE. Why would one feel the need to unload a gun that is kept locked in a safe? Are his kids safe crackers?

ERG, what Bawanna said is right. Loading and unloading constantly is increasing the likelihood of an accident. Seeing as how you keep everything in the safe, why not just leave it loaded? In fact, lots of people keep their gun in its carry holster, even when removing it. Do that and store it in the safe, never exposing the trigger or even touching the gun. KISS is the way to go, and unloading a gun you are keeping in a safe isn't.

[TriggerMan]

Loading and unloading enters you in a dangerous guessing game, "Is it loaded?" Better to always be loaded. Period. No wondering, no assuming. No mistakes!

[Thunder71]

Yeah, I have 3 small kids and I make sure the guns aren't a 'big secret', they know what they are and what they can do. With the mystery removed the kids lost interest, not only that but they are all in a safe that only my wife and I know the combination to. My kids sometimes watch me holster my weapon in the morning, they don't think any more of that than me putting on my socks - they could quite frankly care less about the gun because it's normal and they know I have them to protect them and I've taught them not to talk about it to their friends, it's our business - nobody else's.

I also take them out shooting when they want to go (my kids are 4,5 & 9), I have Airsoft and BB guns for them to use under my supervision (one shot at a time).

I understand your concerns, but I would recommend concentrating your efforts on education and safe handling rather than unloading the guns constantly - I think that makes your risk go up more than leaving them loaded in the locked safe.

[Bawanna]

The three of you missed something: he keeps everything in a SAFE. Why would one feel the need to unload a gun that is kept locked in a safe? Are his kids safe crackers?

ERG, what Bawanna said is right. Loading and unloading constantly is increasing the likelihood of an accident. Seeing as how you keep everything in the safe, why not just leave it loaded? In fact, lots of people keep their gun in its carry holster, even when removing it. Do that and store it in the safe, never exposing the trigger or even touching the gun. KISS is the way to go, and unloading a gun you are keeping in a safe isn't.

I'm one of the three stooges that missed everything but ERG, I'm still right?

This is gonna be a good day.

[muggsy]

Yeah, I have 3 small kids and I make sure the guns aren't a 'big secret', they know what they are and what they can do. With the mystery removed the kids lost interest, not only that but they are all in a safe that only my wife and I know the combination to. My kids sometimes watch me holster my weapon in the morning, they don't think any more of that than me putting on my socks - they could quite frankly care less about the gun because it's normal and they know I have them to protect them and I've taught them not to talk about it to their friends, it's our business - nobody else's.

I also take them out shooting when they want to go (my kids are 4,5 & 9), I have Airsoft and BB guns for them to use under my supervision (one shot at a time).

I understand your concerns, but I would recommend concentrating your efforts on education and safe handling rather than unloading the guns constantly - I think that makes your risk go up more than leaving them loaded in the locked safe.

That's how my old man raised me and I turned out alright, didn't I?

[Thunder71]

"birds chirping"



Me too muggsy, only his guns were in plain sight lol.

[East River Guide]

Why would one feel the need to unload a gun that is kept locked in a safe?

As Mrs. ERG will be happy to discuss with you Mr. ERG isn't perfect. I once shut the safe door without turning the handle to lock it. My bad, horrible mistake, but was a good reminder that multiple levels of safety can help save your butt when you make a mistake. On a long enough timeline, everyone makes a mistake.

[jocko]

again every person has their own degree of safety in and around their home. No one but wife and I are in my home so my PM9 is loaded on the living room mantel. My P380 is loaded in a longaberger basket. MY K9 is loaded in my bedroom vanity, My J frame is loaded in my dresser draw. Any time and I mean any time anyone comes to my home my two guns in the living room dissappear. Many would be uncomfortable in what I just stated so again this is ol jocko's method, maybe not a good one for many. No kids ever come and visit, but if they did ALL GUNS WOULD BE UNLOADED and stored away from the ammo.

[jg rider]

With the amount of practice shooting done around here, (3x a week), the procedure is clear weapon of carry mag and chambered round, insert practice ammo mag, practice, clear weapon, wait for it.........................lock slide back, drop same always carry round into chamber, drop slide, insert carry mag.

14 years of doing this without any mishaps, broken parts, or mis shaped bullet nose or bullet set backs

[jg rider]

No one but wife and I are in my home so my PM9 is loaded on the living room mantel. My P380 is loaded in a longaberger basket. MY K9 is loaded in my bedroom vanity, My J frame is loaded in my dresser draw. Any time and I mean any time anyone comes to my home my two guns in the living room dissappear. Many would be uncomfortable in what I just stated so again this is ol jocko's method, maybe not a good one for many. No kids ever come and visit, but if they did ALL GUNS WOULD BE UNLOADED and stored away from the ammo.

My wife has a K9 in a kitchen pantrycupboard, and keeps a night sighted, Streamlight Glock 17 in her bedroom nightstand draw to keep us safe. I have my aluminum baseball bat and my .25 Raven Arms pistol

[Thunder71]

FWIW, repeatedly chambering a round can also knock the primer loose over time. That means no bang, potentially when you need it most.

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