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Your gun is a tool, NOT a talisman - train, train, TRAIN!

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  • #16
    And I think it's time to give my little tidbits to it.

    I've been absent from these forums for a while. Predominantly due to work, and changing carry platforms. I tend to go seek out as much info as I can about the equipment that I utilize. I went from starting work making sandwiches at a casino shortly after I made this original post, to working at a high tonnage food production plant in the ghetto. The pay was great, the hours sucked, and the neighborhood - wow.

    It really hit home for me when I was driving to work and found a dead body in the street. Mind you this neighborhood is one of those places where nobody ever knows, saw, or heard about any happenings. What struck me most wasn't that I found somebody in the street, or the phone call I made after that - no. It was my reaction. I didn't think anything about the person laying on the ground, or their family - the only thing I thought of was "****, now I'm late to work." I had been desensitized that much.

    The plant was an anti-anything-that could-possibly-be-concieved-of-as-a-weapon place, yet they issued box cutters like they were going out of style - go figure. I won't say for sure, but I'll let you imagine how well I agreed to, and complied with, their rules (mind you, I still would not have broken any laws either way).

    I got out of there shortly after that, and started working at a gun store. I took a big paycut, but I was happy, and that's what mattered. I worked in a neighborhood that was right between a really, really rich neighborhood and a really, really poor neighborhood. We got plenty of people from both sides of life coming in, and everybody got along just fine (save some confused gang bangers that tried to influence us paying insurance.....that was funny). One of the biggest reasons I enjoyed working there is there was a 24/7 gym across the parking lot - the real reason though, is that they were very flexible with my work hours due to being in the USAF Delayed Entry Program, and they strongly supported my decision to enlist.

    I took my second to last oath of enlistment at MEPS on July 03, and was at Lackland AFB later that night. I'm going to skip most of my BMT stories because honestly - I had fun there. No, not in an easy way, but in a sick, demented, I like this crap, way that my MTI ran things (he ran them old school, and I am very grateful that he did).

    Over the last few years BMT was extended two weeks to a total of 8 weeks. When past trainees graduated at the 6 week marker and became airman, we were going through BEAST (Basic Expeditionary Airman Skills Training). Picture a simulated deployed environment, random people in middle eastern garb outside the wire with AK's, scorpians, TEMPR tents, MRE's, etc. I was in charge of a sector in my zone, putting me in charge of approximately 80 trainees, in addition to the 51 we had in my flight. Part of this training involved a chalk walk.

    We went outside the wire, and I gave up my role to another young trainee - a gung ho guy, smart, liked by many, pretty level headed. On our chalk walk we had 14 trainees counting myself. We had a mission to complete, which was locate, give aide (if needed), and evacuate a wounded airman in a town. We all had our battle rattle and rubber dummy weapons. One of the staff was there if we had any questions. Stumph asked some questions, but he forgot a very key part - if we are engaged in a firefight, how do we actually terminate the threat (these weren't laser guns or anything)?

    Well, time came and there's the town. We had split up into 3 teams - two rifle teams and one medevac. However, team leaders hadn't been assigned, nor had even a general thought process of how to enter been discussed by Stumph. I had a really bad feeling going in. I was the only one that had been in a situation actually involving a gun in the group before, and the only one with any training involving firearms or tactics. I was on the medevac team as a last ditch guard for the medic.

    20 seconds in we lost 9 guys. Machine guns were going, as were explosions. Hardly anybody took cover, most froze and 'died'. Most of the remaining members couldn't bring their weapon on a threat - they were paralized. I don't know if it was the adrenaline, or that they have never thought they would have to actually point a rifle at another human since they joined the Air Force, not the Marines (news flash - guess who we deploy with fellas ).

    Obviously our mission wasn't successful. The medevac team fell back to hard cover outside the town and radioed for 'reinforcements' and the situation was called over. Nearly all were completely unprepared for what they were doing that day. Why? Honestly, I blame the training we received at BMT. Our hands on combatives / rifle training culminated less than a day's training combined. Most everybody there, and even here at tech school, are beyond content with the training they have gotten and have no desire for any more. I tell them the story of Paul the Rifleman, and they still do not believe it can happen to them (hey, we're intel, I'm told a lot).

    Train. Evaluate your skills and your gear. Push yourself. Shoot competitively. Take classes. Buy ammo by the cases, and shoot the crap out of your guns. Learn how your platform works. Learn it's weak spots, learn its strengths. Exploit the strengths, minimize the weaknesses. Perform routine preventative maintenance.

    You have to be willing to understand that every platform has compromises, and you must be willing to choose the best platform for you regardless the brand based upon your needs.

    But far, far, far more important than that, is to maintain vigilance.
    ~Mike F.
    April 19th, 1775 - when marksmanship met history, and the heritage began. Liberty, Heritage, and Marksmanship.

    Are you a Rifleman or a cook? Attend an Appleseed event and discover your heritage.

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    • #17
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      Long time no see,It's good to see you back.

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      • #18
        Excellent lesson.

        "CCW is FIGHTING, not target shooting!" Very well put.

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        • #19
          Jeep -

          Your post is an inspiration, and I thank you for the courage to face what you did and to post this "lessons learned" that we all so desperately need. May God bless you and yours - from a fellow Naval Service veteran. SEMPER FI!
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          Geologist Bob
          US Navy P-3 Pilot, Army Guard Huey & Blackhawk Pilot (ret.)
          Geologist Bob
          US Navy P-3 Pilot, Army Guard Huey & Blackhawk Pilot (ret.)

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          • #20
            I wanted to add - I cannot imagine what all Jeep went through. And I really appreciate is AAR on training........

            May sound silly, but since I can't go to the range every day, and since only private ranges seems to let you really practice what we need to do for SD, I use air soft pistols in the house and yard to practice - try to do so at least three times a week. Drawing and firing at profile targets, moving around with cover, and all at short distances.
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            Geologist Bob
            US Navy P-3 Pilot, Army Guard Huey & Blackhawk Pilot (ret.)
            Geologist Bob
            US Navy P-3 Pilot, Army Guard Huey & Blackhawk Pilot (ret.)

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            • #21
              Jeep/Mike posted this about Paul:

              "His name is Paul, a marine who was paralyzed in Iraq 6.5 years ago. This is his story (original link - Lessons Learned In Combat - M4Carbine.net Forums ) :

              Lessons Learned In Combat

              I originally wrote and posted this in the AAR for my recent carbine course on the Alumni Forum. But I think it would interest a lot of you here as well. Feel free to cross-post or share it where and how you see fit, as I want it to have as much of an impact as possible, and drive several key points home, on those who go in harms way, both on foreign soil (military and PMCs) and here at home (LEOs and civilian sheepdogs). Combat vets also feel free to post your own lessons learned in combat.

              I'm Paul, the wounded Marine mentioned above in Jeff's AAR. I served as a Rifleman (MOS 0311- Get Some!!) during the initial invasion of Iraq some 6 1/2 years ago, and was severely wounded in one hell of a gunfight on April 12, 2003 in the city of Al Tarmiyah, a small suburb just northwest of Baghdad. I can now say with complete confidence that had I somehow been able to attend a TRICON class (or similar training class offered by another quality instructor) before I deployed to war, and had been able to learn all of the things taught by Jeff Gonzales in this carbine course I recently took here in Houston, I would NOT have been shot the way I was on that Sunday afternoon in Iraq. That's not to say I wouldn't have been blown to **** in an IED attack on my second deployment to Ramadi in 2004 (which is where my unit deployed next), but I would not have been shot that day and wouldn't be paralyzed from the waist down for the rest of my life."

              Read HIS story in the link above. There are some good lessons to be learned in his story.

              Wynn
              USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
              Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
              Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

              Thomas Jefferson said

              “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
              and

              "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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