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    Just returned from 4 days in Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming. It now is legal to carry concealed in national parks as long as the state where the park is allows concealed carry and that this state recognizes your CHL. Most of Yellowstone is in Wyoming, where my CHL is recognized, so I was able to carry my CM9 there.

    HOWEVER, just as in my home state, individual businesses can post signs banning guns on their premises. In Yellowstone, most of the lodgings, restaurants, gift shops and other amenities are run by a company called Xanterra Parks and Resorts, which holds a concession to do so from the National Park Service. At many of the facilities run by Xanterra, guns are prohibited by a sign at the entrances. So you can travel outdoors throughout the park carrying concealed, but the moment you enter one of the Yellowstone hotels or restaurants, you're expected to surrender your right to self defense.

    Under federal law, the same applies in federal facilities in the parks, such as the various visitor centers.

    The irony of this was particularly evident at the Visitor's Center at Mammoth Hot Springs. The familiar sign on the front door bans firearms, but inside, the exhibits lovingly display a variety of -- you guessed it -- guns! The exhibits are about the official expeditions that explored the park and include the equipment carried by members of the expeditions, including their weapons, such as these:



    Clearly, these are weapons of self-defense, and park officials believe that there is value in displaying them. Yet the point seems lost on them that self defense is as vital today as it was back then.

    It is a crime that a company that works for U.S. taxpayers and accepts taxpayer money should be hostile to the right of those taxpayers to exercise their Second Amendment rights inside facilities that those taxpayers paid for and own.
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    Crater Lake National Park here in Oregon has many facilities that post a "No Guns" sign on entrances, I ignore them & carry inside anyway. It is a shame, as a lot of business folks just don't get it!
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    • #3
      There's no way I would ever visit one of those parks with all of the dangerous wildlife AND the 2-legged kind of predators, without carrying concealed... and a MAJOR caliber at that! I'll probably never get to Yellowstone before the mega-volcano blows and destroys half the country... any day now!

      I don't like the long lines of vehicles, either! I get a lot of the outdoors whenever I visit SW Colorado.

      Wynn
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      • #4
        Here is what I faced the last time I was in Yellowstone a few weeks ago. I'm not really sure that he would have been impressed with my Kahr, or anything else short of a .44 magnum, if the need had arisen.
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        • #5
          I've always been amazed at the people who survived by playing dead while something like that was chewing on them... just unbelievable!

          I think that I would have screamed like a little girl... after I had at least emptied my P40 or PM45! I KNOW that running just makes them want to eat you more!

          Wynn
          USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
          Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
          Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

          Thomas Jefferson said

          “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
          and

          "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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          • #6
            Yellowstone is definitely a park everyone should visit at least once in there lifetime. I've been fortunate to have been a few times and everyone of them have been awesome.

            I've never CC'd at Yellowstone but I have in Big Bend NP in Texas and this was before you could do it legally. I used to go by myself on photography trips and their was no way in hell that I wasn't going to have "my little friend" (my 1911 at the time) along with me. IMO, sometimes common sense overrules the legal aspect of it.

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            • #7
              I went through Yellowstone a few years ago on the way home from Cody, taking my daughter to school. At the time it wasn't legal but I carried anyhow. I saw the signs going into the park but ignored them, I didn't see the signs at the shops and stuff, maybe at that time they figured the signs at the entrance covered them.

              I didn't see hardly a single car most of the way through the park till we hit the big gift shop, restaurant about half way through. Then they were everywhere.

              I agree it's worth the trip, beautiful country, digged seeing real buffalo and all.

              As a side note but directly related. Wife and I visited Grand Coulee Dam yesterday. Went to the visitor center and they asked if we wanted to go on the tour, we assumed a walk through type deal, so we said ok.
              Lady told the wife no purse, no bags, no camera, then added no pocket knives. I thought to myself, this isn't good.
              I'd left my 1911 at the motel but had my PM45 on my ankle. Small sheath knife on my belt etc, so we go back to the van and unload.
              Get back inside and they put me at the head of the line. Lady is talking again about going through a metal detector, just like TSA, prior to getting on a bus (wheelchair equipped) for a 2 minute ride to the damn. I told her I'm never gonna get past that. Then I remembered my leatherman tool so wife had to go back to the van again.
              Should have just taken off my front and rear bags and been ok but didn't think of that. Forgot 3 little pocket knifes in the front bag and a mini baton in the rear.
              Anyhow up to the two federal homeland security guys I go. They aren't sure what to do with me, kind of peaking in my rear bag, didn't notice the front and I finally just said hold on and showed my police ID. Told em I was a civillian office puke but the badge and ID were valid and they agreed that worked.

              Wasn't worth it, didn't get to see hardly zip. Guards magically appeared the two places we were allowed. The one place inside where we could see the turbines, the guard had a sub gun, I think an MP5 but couldn't get close enough to tell and I think that's what the sub gun was for.

              I won't be going there again.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bawanna View Post

                I'd left my 1911 at the motel
                had my PM45 on my ankle.
                Small sheath knife on my belt etc,
                Then I remembered my leatherman tool
                Forgot 3 little pocket knifes in the front bag
                a mini baton in the rear.
                I finally just said hold on and showed my police ID
                Lesson for the day: Don't screw with Bawanna.:53::40::7:
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by yqtszhj View Post
                  Lesson for the day: Don't screw with Bawanna.:53::40::7:
                  I'm really not a mean person, I just like to have proper tools with me. The pocket knives are just little things. The belt knife is small too, not your basic Rambo Kukri samaurai blade, just a small damascus blade, bone handled knife I wear everyday. Got it from GB, most are much too large for my taste. Too many years in the boy scouts I guess.

                  My wife is really coming around too, she's finally been carrying her Smith 638 all the time. Before we left, she asked if I had her covered, she was gonna leave it home in the safe. I asked who had me covered? Seemed like a logical question.

                  Anyhow we survived once again.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by wyntrout View Post
                    There's no way I would ever visit one of those parks with all of the dangerous wildlife AND the 4-legged kind of predators, without carrying concealed... and a MAJOR caliber at that! I'll probably never get to Yellowstone before the mega-volcano blows and destroys half the country... any day now!

                    I don't like the long lines of vehicles, either! I get a lot of the outdoors whenever I visit SW Colorado.

                    Wynn
                    There no worse that the two legged predators that you find in the inner city.
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                    • #11
                      Dang! I meant to say 2-legged predators. They like preying on people who aren't armed, as most tourists used to be before we could legally carry concealed in the parks.

                      Wynn
                      USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                      Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                      Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                      Thomas Jefferson said

                      “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                      and

                      "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                      • #12
                        In Montana, posted "No Guns" signs have NO force of law re conceal carry. They can ask you to leave and you must if they do, but this is not a CCW violation.

                        You should check Wyoming law, but according to http://www.handgunlaw.us/ "No Guns" signs have force of law there.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by wyntrout View Post
                          There's no way I would ever visit one of those parks with all of the dangerous wildlife AND the 2-legged kind of predators, without carrying concealed... and a MAJOR caliber at that! I'll probably never get to Yellowstone before the mega-volcano blows and destroys half the country... any day now!

                          I don't like the long lines of vehicles, either! I get a lot of the outdoors whenever I visit SW Colorado.

                          Wynn
                          I have found many places in East Tennessee and North Georgia that are just as beautiful as the Smokey Mountain National Park with virtually no crowds. All of the people and crowded roads defeat the purpose of going to these parks in the first place. Like Yogi said: "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded".

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                          • #14
                            It seems like the less people the more beautiful it is no matter where you are.



                            Maybe I'm anti social?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bawanna View Post
                              It seems like the less people the more beautiful it is no matter where you are.



                              Maybe I'm anti social?
                              +1000 (on the first part - I don't know about your 2nd statement )

                              That's one of the main reasons I like living in the Idaho mountains much of the year.

                              My "neighbors" (nearest one is 3 miles away) are all really nice people, but maybe because there are so few of them.
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