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  • #16
    Reload and return to target
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    • #17
      What's faster?

      I guess it would depend on where that BUG was. If it's in an ankle holster I am going with a reload. If it's weak side hip then the bug is faster. I think the question leaves out the most important variable, where your BUG is at.
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      • #18
        To many variables. Everyone is different. Everyone carries different. Question leaves it up to the reader to test for him/herself based on how that person carries. There is no right or wrong here. Without testing it for yourself, you would you know what you can do faster....BUG or reload. The interest was to hear how others felt, based on how they carried. Some folks out there may have a pretty good system / plan worked out for their BUG. The BUG thing as always intrigued me, so I am asking to learn.

        Because I am not a BUG carry guy, I'm trained to be a reload kind of guy. I can do it quicker because I practice it. I would currently be fumbling with a primary while digging for a secondary to shoot weak hand which is not my style. I would not feel as competent relying on my weak hand for my BUG, or dealing with my primary to make the BUG strong hand. I would only trust my life on my weak hand if my strong hand was incapacitated. That's where my competence is right now in my training, but I may progress to a new thought about this someday. Right now, I find it too uncomfortable and unnecessary to carry multiple firearms. The probability is that I will never need to pull my primary...God Willing. But at least it is there. Besides, I change my primary carry location based on clothing (temperature) and what/where I may be doing something outdoors (IWB, pocket, OWB). So I need to concentrate on that alone to trust my life on it. Call me a weak minded guy I guess. That's just me. It does not make others wrong, nor me right. Just hearing from the folks on the forum to see how they are training to do things and why.
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        - "One should diligently train at all times." Miyamoto Musashi
        - "Train in technique until it requires no thought - no mind and just happens." Takan Soho
        - "The truth beyond the technique....Here's where we stop thinking and start shooting." Brian Enos
        - "A single sword against the cold sky." Yamaoka Tesshu
        - "You must concentrate upon and consecrate yourself wholly to each day, as though a fire were raging in your hair."
        Taisen Deshimaru
        - "Know your sword!"

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        • #19
          Originally posted by jocko View Post
          not if ur 70!!! Just sayin a ccw really comes into play whenu hit 70+, as that might be ur only out.
          True story.

          The dad of a guy who works for me was a retired state trooper. He was probably about 90 at the time and was going to his favorite local coffee shop.

          He was going into the door and some young teenage punk with sagging pants said "get out of the way you useless old man" and pushed him out of the way. As soon as he got passed him the 90 year old put a karate chop right on the back of the guy's neck and knocked him to the ground.

          The punk was dazed and when he realized what happened he got up and ran from the place like a kicked dog.

          His son asked him later what he would have done if the guy got up and tried to do something? His dad replied "I would have had time to get to my pistol by then and taken care of it."

          The man passed away earlier this year but that story really sticks with me. Don't mess with old people, they didn't get old by being taken advantage of at every turn.

          The only thing better than having all the guns and ammo you'd ever need would be being able to shoot it all off the back porch.

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          • #20
            For me the fastest is a larger mag. The issue is the number of rounds you have, period. I carry 11 in .45 and if I need more who's to say I wouldn't use those and still need more.
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            • #21
              For my input on this I consider the primary (in my case the Cbob) on my belt as the get r dun tool. I will reload and use it until it fails and/ or all reloads are consumed.
              Then and only then does the PM45 on the ankle come into play.
              I would not ever have both guns in hand, the Cbob would not be reholstered as it would be out of the game, empty or broken. It would be dropped (probably gently, I love that gun) and forgotten.
              The bug would be in the same strong hand unless of course the strong hand is out of commission too.

              In my life style I seriously doubt I'll ever need either at all, if I do I won't need a lot of rounds. If the bug comes into play it will be due to a malfunction more than likely.
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              • #22
                Makes good sense Bawanna. Good input. Tx.
                My Sword - PM4044N/CTL/Talons
                - "One should diligently train at all times." Miyamoto Musashi
                - "Train in technique until it requires no thought - no mind and just happens." Takan Soho
                - "The truth beyond the technique....Here's where we stop thinking and start shooting." Brian Enos
                - "A single sword against the cold sky." Yamaoka Tesshu
                - "You must concentrate upon and consecrate yourself wholly to each day, as though a fire were raging in your hair."
                Taisen Deshimaru
                - "Know your sword!"

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                • #23
                  Garyb, I think that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me. With tears in my eyes I thank you.
                  http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
                  In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
                  Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
                  Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
                  Cue sound of Head slap.

                  RIP Muggsy & TMan

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                  • #24
                    I'd love to hear more from other bug folks out there, so I can understand how the bug gets used faster and what happens to your primary. Thanks.
                    My Sword - PM4044N/CTL/Talons
                    - "One should diligently train at all times." Miyamoto Musashi
                    - "Train in technique until it requires no thought - no mind and just happens." Takan Soho
                    - "The truth beyond the technique....Here's where we stop thinking and start shooting." Brian Enos
                    - "A single sword against the cold sky." Yamaoka Tesshu
                    - "You must concentrate upon and consecrate yourself wholly to each day, as though a fire were raging in your hair."
                    Taisen Deshimaru
                    - "Know your sword!"

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                    • #25
                      My MK9 is my primary...............if whatever needs to be done, can't be done with that and another mag...............your over powered and in a firefight, and best to get the h311 out of there, if possible. If your in a position to have to keep reloading, or abandoning your primary, and using your secondary(bug), you're in the wrong place, and have the worst luck on the planet.

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                      • #26
                        That's for sure.
                        My Sword - PM4044N/CTL/Talons
                        - "One should diligently train at all times." Miyamoto Musashi
                        - "Train in technique until it requires no thought - no mind and just happens." Takan Soho
                        - "The truth beyond the technique....Here's where we stop thinking and start shooting." Brian Enos
                        - "A single sword against the cold sky." Yamaoka Tesshu
                        - "You must concentrate upon and consecrate yourself wholly to each day, as though a fire were raging in your hair."
                        Taisen Deshimaru
                        - "Know your sword!"

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