Anyone pepper sprayed a dog?

[AJBert]

A failure is every instance where the subject was able to continue their previous activity at a level of at least 50%. Meaning if they did anything other than a complete and total cessation of resistance ie. just stopped struggling 100%. If they could continue struggling and fight it is a failure in the minds of the manufacturers and officers. I have NEVER seen anybody sprayed that just quit and gave up any and all resistance, never even once. Personal observation and facts from CapStun and other major manufacturers. Some formulations work well. Many depts. switched in my area to a cheaper brand. The current supplier advises that from delivery to effect is from 3-7 seconds. It effects my breathing but VERY LITTLE tearing and eye irritation with the current formulation. Alcohol based OC is VASTLY better than the water based being promulgated currently. Aalcohol based is rare to find currently due to its claimed flammability problems.

With that being said, I'd say effectiveness is much less than 50%. As I'm sure you know, in order for anyone in the military or law enforcement to pass they MUST continue on through various exercises after being sprayed. Also, the more one is sprayed the less affect it has on them mentally as they already know they can continue to function.

To those who have never been sprayed through training the first reaction is to curl up in the fetal position and pray someone would put a bullet in the back of their skull.

I've only been sprayed in the military and not really sure if water or alcohol based. I do know it feels like you've just been hit in the face with a flame thrower and your skin is peeling off your skull.

[b4uqzme]

I've only been sprayed in the military and not really sure if water or alcohol based. I do know it feels like you've just been hit in the face with a flame thrower and your skin is peeling off your skull.

cool!

[Bawanna]

All our officers are required to be sprayed and tazed if they carry. I went through it once and definitely know what it feels like. I also accidently sprayed myself with my mom's dog spray. It felt about the same.

During the officer thing we got sprayed, had to fight a guy in the red man suit, fire a pistol from a simunition gun, then unlock a patrol car door and get in.

Getting in the car was the hardest part for me.

Then spent about an hour with my head in a wash tub and a fan blowing in my face.

I'd rather be tazed, the hurt doesn't last near as long.

[happypuppy]

keep in mind that the strength varies a lot. Some departments train with weaker formulas than they carry

The responses to it are physiological. Unless you have some alien physiology it will work. Just depends on concentration and how well you are sprayed.

Citizens have a different need ; To escape and evade. There is no need to engage and control.

The biggest problem with defensive sprays its so easy to contaminate yourself while controlling

Animals have very sensitive nasal systems and it's one of the reasons why bear spray is a lesser concentration
Dogs are hard to hit however


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[kenemoore]

I walk a lot, and often encounter less than friendly dogs. I have found that a water pistol filled with house hold ammonia is quite effective against the average neighborhood canine.

[JohnR]

A failure is every instance where the subject was able to continue their previous activity at a level of at least 50%. Meaning if they did anything other than a complete and total cessation of resistance ie. just stopped struggling 100%. If they could continue struggling and fight it is a failure in the minds of the manufacturers and officers. I have NEVER seen anybody sprayed that just quit and gave up any and all resistance, never even once. Personal observation and facts from CapStun and other major manufacturers. Some formulations work well. Many depts. switched in my area to a cheaper brand. The current supplier advises that from delivery to effect is from 3-7 seconds. It effects my breathing but VERY LITTLE tearing and eye irritation with the current formulation. Alcohol based OC is VASTLY better than the water based being promulgated currently. Aalcohol based is rare to find currently due to its claimed flammability problems.

For ordinary citizen use against a two or four legged predator, I would suggest those standards are too high; those are all-or-nothing minimum standards. I don't expect my spray-ee to struggle and fight because I expect to spray them before any fight begins. If a fight has begun, the gun comes out.

[b4uqzme]

A failure is every instance where the subject was able to continue their previous activity at a level of at least 50%. Meaning if they did anything other than a complete and total cessation of resistance ie. just stopped struggling 100%. If they could continue struggling and fight it is a failure in the minds of the manufacturers and officers. I have NEVER seen anybody sprayed that just quit and gave up any and all resistance, never even once. Personal observation and facts from CapStun and other major manufacturers. Some formulations work well. Many depts. switched in my area to a cheaper brand. The current supplier advises that from delivery to effect is from 3-7 seconds. It effects my breathing but VERY LITTLE tearing and eye irritation with the current formulation. Alcohol based OC is VASTLY better than the water based being promulgated currently. Aalcohol based is rare to find currently due to its claimed flammability problems.

Yeah, I think there is a big difference between and officer trying to subdue a criminal hell-bent on resisting arrest vs. an average citizen trying to repel an ornery dog or a purse snatcher. If it can accomplish the latter, I call that successful.

[berettabone]

I am as big an animal lover of all kinds, as they come, but if an animal becomes aggressive and their owners can't control, or train their animal sufficiently, it's going to die. It will maybe be a lesson for other animal owners. If you want to be a pet owner, train and discipline your pet, or it won't come home.

[Longitude Zero]

I walk a lot, and often encounter less than friendly dogs. I have found that a water pistol filled with house hold ammonia is quite effective against the average neighborhood canine.

And much cheaper. My parents carry a small CO2 fire extinguisher. Animals HATE the super cold spray. Another benefit is that it is NOT chemically traceable.

[rwehnau]

I have used the bear spray on charging/aggressive dogs on several occasions with great results. Dogs do not appreciate that product