Help Figuring Out the Kahr's Long Reset

[Antarius]

It should also be said that some people, no matter what, don't ever get used to or like double action triggers.

In the day and age of "safe action" strikers, or DA/SA and true single action -- some people never get around to learning a good double action trigger.

Personally I love DA triggers, if smooth and light, and while I can't fire as fast as a SA, I am as accurate.

Remember, you should only be firing as fast as you can while still hitting what you want. If you aren't, you need to slow down. There will be a point where either the gun, or you, are physically incapable of staying on target at a given speed. In double action pistols, this will almost always be a little bit slower than a single action 1911 for example.

[McE]

My first gun was a revolver with a hefty DA, so I'm no stranger to the pull, I'm just a little reluctant to have to classify the Kahr semi in that category to justify how it performs. Does that make sense?
Frankly I'm probably going to part ways with the CW45 as my M&P45 really is not all that much bigger in ways that matter, but I want to get better with my PM9 as it is my winter carry choice.

I would say my target goal is to get 2 sets of doubles (4 shots) in 2 seconds inside of a 6" circle at 7 yards. Is that a reasonable goal?

[leftysixty]

To shoot a Kahr pistol well you need to work the trigger like you would a double action revolver. Double action revolvers can be shot very fast and accurate.

If you can fire it smooth and accurate (don't worry about fast doubles) you will find that under stress you will shoot faster than you ever believed possible. If you have a quick, smooth trigger pull, the fast doubles will come automatically.

It is easy to teach in person, not so much by written word. Good luck. You can learn to do what you want, you just have to do the work.

[Firemedic]

I'm in the process of getting used to the trigger of my CM9. I'm a Glock shooter. I'm consistently a little low left. I think it's my head angle. I'm slowly getting used to the sight picture. I added a Pachmyr grip and that gave me a fuller hand which helped accuracy. Double tap with Glock is a natural, with Kahr, not so much. I guess that's part of the break in time with Kahr pistols. Practice helps the pistol and shooter loosen up and work together.

I'm also low/left with my PM9. I learned not to shoot with the dot right over the bar and have a small gap between the two which works for me. As long as I keep practicing this way, it will be muscle memory when I shoot.

[Redstate]

To shoot a Kahr pistol well you need to work the trigger like you would a double action revolver. Double action revolvers can be shot very fast and accurate.
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Agreed. Ask Jerry Miculek about double action revolvers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTHc4H_i8DY

[muggsy]

I can clear and empty my CM9 in under three seconds. How fast do you have to be?

[Photoman]

...and with only six rounds, do you really want to be fast?

[ripley16]

I don't have a problem with the sights, I really like them and line them up very quickly. It's the trigger finger exodus between shots that's throwing me off.

Should I try keeping the trigger fully held back until ready to fire again, then do a quick release and press? or get off the trigger until ready to fire then do a full press? or actually try to take up some of the trigger as I reacquire my sights?

Sounds odd but the smooth, light, non-stacking qualities of the trigger make that last option seem a more delicate operation than, say, my M&P45 where I can bring it in to the breaking point until ready to give it a click to fire.

This;
"or get off the trigger until ready to fire then do a full press?"

[McE]

...and with only six rounds, do you really want to be fast?

Yes?

[muggsy]

I reset the trigger while the gun is still in recoil. As soon as I reacquire the sight picture I begin the next trigger press.You can be just as quick with a Kahr pistol as any other.

[b4uqzme]

Yes?

Good answer.

[McE]

I can clear and empty my CM9 in under three seconds. How fast do you have to be?

Faster, with acquiring different targets. A mag dump into one target is going to sound a lot like excessive force.

[Antarius]

Newsflash: Unless you make sure the person you're shooting is white, or there is video of you being actively shot at, you're going to have the media out for your head saying it was excessive force.

Bottom line, shoot when you need to - to survive. Not a moment before, not a moment after; And shoot until you are safe.

Deal with the cards you're dealt after the fact -- but make sure you survive.

[muggsy]

I continue to shoot until the threat is over. Be that one shot or a dozen. I don't give a damn about the media or the perp. I care about lovable old Muggsy. I got to be an old man by not screwing with any old men.

[Antarius]

I continue to shoot until the threat is over. Be that one shot or a dozen. I don't give a damn about the media or the perp. I care about lovable old Muggsy. I got to be an old man by not screwing with any old men.

Exactly. Protect yourself and your family lawfully, and with Xtreme Prejudice if it
comes to that point. We all hope it never does -- but make sure you win if it does. There is no second place.