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  • Question - When do you remove you gun?

    Hi All,

    As a CCW holder I carry my weapon as often as I can. I have been troubled by the question of when should I leave my gun in the car or home? What do you do in these situations? BTW due to a shoulder injury I carry in the 1:00 - 2:00 position.

    1) When you go to the dentist? - I'm worried the dentist will inadvertently feel it under my shirt.

    2) When you get a haircut? - Again, worried the gun will be inadvertently detected.

    3) When you're going to a show or play or movies (on a date)? - Worried there might be a metal detector and asked to leave, ruining my date and chances with a wonderful woman.

    4) When you're going to a small private gathering among friends in a guarded, gated private community? - unnecessary to carry here??? I might have a drink or 2.

    5) When you're going to the gym? - Leave in car, gym locker??? It might get stolen out of my locked locker.

    6) Out to dinner where I might have a glass of wine or 2? - Should I carry and deprive myself of some wine therefore not enjoying the evening fully or not carry and indulge and enjoy???

    7) Any place else I forgot?

    Any thoughts or ideas?

    Thanks,
    Mark
    Notables:
    Kimber Custom II 1911 .45 ACP ("How sweet it is")
    Kahr CM9 9mm - Trijicon night sights, Wolff 5# striker spring
    Glock 19 Gen 3 9mm - Meprolight night sights, BTGuiderod stainless steel captured guide rod, Ghost Ranger trigger connector, Vickers mag release
    Taurus 85 Stainless Steel .38 Special
    1977 Smith & Wesson 19-4 2.5" .357 Magnum - Wolff springs, Professional trigger job
    1955 Hi-Standard Sentinel R-100 .22lr
    1958 Marlin Golden 39-A Mountie .22lr
    Norinco SKS 7.62x39

  • #2
    What the hell kind of dentist do you go to?

    Mine goes on in the morning and comes off at bed time.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Thunder71 View Post
      What the hell kind of dentist do you go to?

      Mine goes on in the morning and comes off at bed time.
      LOL! Just saying that where my gun is (front right) that if the dentist or hygienist has an accidental slip of the hand, it might be detected.
      Notables:
      Kimber Custom II 1911 .45 ACP ("How sweet it is")
      Kahr CM9 9mm - Trijicon night sights, Wolff 5# striker spring
      Glock 19 Gen 3 9mm - Meprolight night sights, BTGuiderod stainless steel captured guide rod, Ghost Ranger trigger connector, Vickers mag release
      Taurus 85 Stainless Steel .38 Special
      1977 Smith & Wesson 19-4 2.5" .357 Magnum - Wolff springs, Professional trigger job
      1955 Hi-Standard Sentinel R-100 .22lr
      1958 Marlin Golden 39-A Mountie .22lr
      Norinco SKS 7.62x39

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TucsonMTB
        Here in the "wild west", I pocket carry a PM40 pretty much 100% of the time that I am awake and occasionally right through a nap on the couch.

        Admittedly, I am too old to have any interest in the bar scene and only occasionally drink on special occasions at home or when visiting friends homes. The concerts we attend regularly are classical symphony or chamber music, so metal detectors are not needed to keep out the riffraff.

        Like my many other old curmudgeon acquaintances, I don't actually worry about anyone noticing.
        Here in Florida it is NOT legal to carry in a bar. However, you may carry in a restaurant that has a bar provided you do not sit in the bar area. Also, it is legal to consume alcohol while carrying. However, one cannot get drunk and carry. I do not do the bar scene either and I'm torn between carrying or not this Saturday to the Naples Philharmonic Center for the Nutcracker.
        Notables:
        Kimber Custom II 1911 .45 ACP ("How sweet it is")
        Kahr CM9 9mm - Trijicon night sights, Wolff 5# striker spring
        Glock 19 Gen 3 9mm - Meprolight night sights, BTGuiderod stainless steel captured guide rod, Ghost Ranger trigger connector, Vickers mag release
        Taurus 85 Stainless Steel .38 Special
        1977 Smith & Wesson 19-4 2.5" .357 Magnum - Wolff springs, Professional trigger job
        1955 Hi-Standard Sentinel R-100 .22lr
        1958 Marlin Golden 39-A Mountie .22lr
        Norinco SKS 7.62x39

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        • #5
          I carry CONSTANTLY!!

          If you're in a place where it's legal to CCW, then who cares if the dentist, etc, notices your piece. Obviously keep it to a minimum because it could make you a target. But at least you have it on the off chance that someone HAPPENS to discover it.

          I'll carry if I have a drink or two, but I know myself very well and I'm trained EXTENSIVELY. I also become FAR more attentive so that I can be more likely to avoid any situation than to have to get myself out of it. After a drink or two, I'll run before I shoot.

          In Missouri, you can't carry anywhere where they get 51%+ of their revenue from alcohol sales without written consent from the owner/manager.

          Did any of this help you?
          Kahr PM9094 - Hornady Critical Defense

          Marlin 30-30
          Mossberg 500A 12 GA
          Marlin .22LR

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MO_Soldier View Post
            I carry CONSTANTLY!!

            If you're in a place where it's legal to CCW, then who cares if the dentist, etc, notices your piece. Obviously keep it to a minimum because it could make you a target. But at least you have it on the off chance that someone HAPPENS to discover it.

            I'll carry if I have a drink or two, but I know myself very well and I'm trained EXTENSIVELY. I also become FAR more attentive so that I can be more likely to avoid any situation than to have to get myself out of it. After a drink or two, I'll run before I shoot.

            In Missouri, you can't carry anywhere where they get 51%+ of their revenue from alcohol sales without written consent from the owner/manager.

            Did any of this help you?
            Apparently, you're not aware and I should have included this in my original question. In Florida if someone intentionally or accidentally notices your gun, it carries the same punishment as brandishing it. They can call the police and I'd be toast. That is why I care if my dentist etc notices my piece. Thus creating part of my dilemma.
            Notables:
            Kimber Custom II 1911 .45 ACP ("How sweet it is")
            Kahr CM9 9mm - Trijicon night sights, Wolff 5# striker spring
            Glock 19 Gen 3 9mm - Meprolight night sights, BTGuiderod stainless steel captured guide rod, Ghost Ranger trigger connector, Vickers mag release
            Taurus 85 Stainless Steel .38 Special
            1977 Smith & Wesson 19-4 2.5" .357 Magnum - Wolff springs, Professional trigger job
            1955 Hi-Standard Sentinel R-100 .22lr
            1958 Marlin Golden 39-A Mountie .22lr
            Norinco SKS 7.62x39

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            • #7
              Yeah, but the question was 'When do you remove your gun?'

              Not, 'When should I remove my gun?'



              In Minnesota it's not open or concealed, it's carry... makes no difference how you carry, which I'm very thankful for.

              We can carry to bars which is nice for me since I don't drink, and we 'can' drink up to .04% which I don't really agree with but it is what it is.

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              • #8
                I try to be sensitive to the carry environment. If I'm getting some medical procedure done where I must disrobe I leave it at home or in the car. Otherwise it's the usual don't carry places like the VA, Post Office, schools, etc. I had to retrain my self when first picking up grandkids at school when they are sick, etc. Now it's normal to put it in the car box.

                I carry at 3:30 so not at the exposure risk as appendix. I've been going to the same dentist for many years so if she discovered my carry it wouldn't be a big deal. She knows me as the gentleman I am so would not feel threatened.
                •"Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end." - O. L.
                • "America's not at war; her military is. America's at the mall."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Thunder71 View Post
                  Yeah, but the question was 'When do you remove your gun?'

                  Not, 'When should I remove my gun?'


                  Yes, that would be better! So, when do you rephrase a question or Should I rephrase my question?
                  Notables:
                  Kimber Custom II 1911 .45 ACP ("How sweet it is")
                  Kahr CM9 9mm - Trijicon night sights, Wolff 5# striker spring
                  Glock 19 Gen 3 9mm - Meprolight night sights, BTGuiderod stainless steel captured guide rod, Ghost Ranger trigger connector, Vickers mag release
                  Taurus 85 Stainless Steel .38 Special
                  1977 Smith & Wesson 19-4 2.5" .357 Magnum - Wolff springs, Professional trigger job
                  1955 Hi-Standard Sentinel R-100 .22lr
                  1958 Marlin Golden 39-A Mountie .22lr
                  Norinco SKS 7.62x39

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Markis82 View Post
                    Apparently, you're not aware and I should have included this in my original question. In Florida if someone intentionally or accidentally notices your gun, it carries the same punishment as brandishing it. They can call the police and I'd be toast. That is why I care if my dentist etc notices my piece. Thus creating part of my dilemma.
                    You're right, I wasn't aware and now I see your dilemma. I would just figure out a way to have it near you at least. Maybe a coat pocket. When you walk in, take the coat off and fold it appropriately on a nearby chair so that you can easily get up and reach it should something happen.

                    I had a massage once in the full nude, and had my gun near me in this fashion. I feel confident that my naked self could have fended off an attacker while advancing to my deadly coat. (Obviously something else would have to be done in warmer times.)

                    Originally posted by Thunder71 View Post
                    In Minnesota it's not open or concealed, it's carry... makes no difference how you carry, which I'm very thankful for.
                    In Missouri, we can open carry as well. But businesses can just ask you to leave, whereas they have to post the proper signs for you to have to stay out with a concealed firearm. Among other things, it's basically more hassle-free to carry concealed, and you're also less of a target.
                    Kahr PM9094 - Hornady Critical Defense

                    Marlin 30-30
                    Mossberg 500A 12 GA
                    Marlin .22LR

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Markis82 View Post
                      Apparently, you're not aware and I should have included this in my original question. In Florida if someone intentionally or accidentally notices your gun, it carries the same punishment as brandishing it. They can call the police and I'd be toast. That is why I care if my dentist etc notices my piece. Thus creating part of my dilemma.
                      Who told you this? I have been looking in the statutes and I do not find this.

                      It will sure make a difference in how I carry when I visit my mother near Tampa if this is the case.

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                      • #12
                        My dentist has a CCW permit. The last time I visited his office I showed him my new CM9. He was impressed and thought that he might pick one up for himself. Now that's my kind of dentist. No, his last name isn't Holliday.
                        Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

                        Life Member - NRA
                        Colt Gold Cup 70 series
                        Colt Woodsman
                        Ruger Mark III .22-45
                        Kahr CM9
                        Kahr P380

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tv_racin_fan View Post
                          Who told you this? I have been looking in the statutes and I do not find this.

                          It will sure make a difference in how I carry when I visit my mother near Tampa if this is the case.
                          I did read it in the statutes, it is not specifically spelled out. But, it was explained fully in my CCW class, some time ago. It also has been in the news because our Governor is trying to change the statute.
                          Notables:
                          Kimber Custom II 1911 .45 ACP ("How sweet it is")
                          Kahr CM9 9mm - Trijicon night sights, Wolff 5# striker spring
                          Glock 19 Gen 3 9mm - Meprolight night sights, BTGuiderod stainless steel captured guide rod, Ghost Ranger trigger connector, Vickers mag release
                          Taurus 85 Stainless Steel .38 Special
                          1977 Smith & Wesson 19-4 2.5" .357 Magnum - Wolff springs, Professional trigger job
                          1955 Hi-Standard Sentinel R-100 .22lr
                          1958 Marlin Golden 39-A Mountie .22lr
                          Norinco SKS 7.62x39

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                          • #14
                            I carry mine anywhere it's not posted i can't, plus not in city, state, or federal office buildings, post office. My doctor and dentist both post the no gun sign. I doubt if my barber would care. I don't drink so that's not a problem carrying in bars which is legal here, though most "wilder" bars are posted no guns, while restraunt bars usually don't post. As far as malls and stuff EVERY entrance must be posted. I went into a mall the other day through a restraunt which wasn't posted, so I carried on into the mall where you aren't sposed to CC. I just made real sure I didn't print. Kansas law states that EVERY entrance into a public place must display the no gun sign, or else it's void.
                            Last edited by TheTman; 11-25-2011, 04:43 PM.
                            Tom
                            Live today, tomorrow may not come!
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                            Springfield Armory 1911
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                            • #15
                              Here is for the native Floridians:
                              http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/florida.jpg

                              Now imagine if you weren't treated like criminals if you CCW!!
                              Those laws will prevent me from ever living in Florida unless they change them.
                              I understand as a CCW I COULD always end up in a courtroom...but I don't want my choice to be black and white; Jail or dead.
                              Kahr PM9094 - Hornady Critical Defense

                              Marlin 30-30
                              Mossberg 500A 12 GA
                              Marlin .22LR

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