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  • #16
    Great advice posted here already, but I'll add that the speed in which you re-holster can cause a ND. At FS we were trained to come out of the holster fast and go back into the holster VERY slowly. You shouldn't be in a hurry to re-holster and if you are, I'm hoping you're performing at a Wild West Show and just finished twirling your 6 shooter (empty) showing off for the kids. As mentioned, during the re-holster, if you feel any obstruction during the process, STOP and figure out what the problem is, shirt caught by the muzzle, or worse yet in the trigger guard. I see guys all the time on Youtube shooting a demo and reholstering almost as fast as they came out and wondering when they'd have the time to feel something wasn't right. My .02. Welcome to the board.

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    • #17
      I got used to twirling my guns before holstering old west style. That's why my friends call me Gimpy.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by muggsy View Post
        I got used to twirling my guns before holstering old west style. That's why my friends call me Gimpy.
        That always works best if you blow the smoke off the barrel first. If you forget that step, you could get an accidental discharge during the twirl.

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        • #19
          Finger strait along the frame above the trigger opening.
          Very interesting...

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          • #20
            I also practice the bad habit of placing my finger behind the trigger on my MK9 when reholstering.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by ripley16 View Post
              I think that is incorrect. The reason given for dropping the K9 was the trigger pull not meeting the requirements of the NYPD, not "Accidental Discharges".
              Hey that's what the NYPD Police officer told me was why he (They) had to sell it (Luckily, to me) something like 32 "accidental discharges"
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              • #22
                or like this!

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                • #23
                  There's NEVER any reason to re-holster in a hurry. Most accidental discharges occur when cleaning the weapon, the second most, when re-holstering. It's is highly doubtful with a Kahr's looong trigger, that you could catch it on something re-holster. Most of the time that people claim a gun went off while reholstering is because they still had their finger on the bang stick. You should always practice at home with a dry gun, running all operations at 1/4 speed both to re-assure yourself and to get in the habit of keeping that finger outside the trigger guard except when actually shooting.
                  I've taught a lot of friends and family and I tell them up front not to get offended, because I'm going to tell them to get that finger off the trigger 50 times during the course of a training session. For some reason, it's just second nature to put your finger inside that trigger guard, but you have to train yourself out of that completely. Until you have, don't lock and load.

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                  • #24
                    I did see a warning about the plastic or wooden balls used on the draw strings at the waist of some jackets or windbreakers hanging down and getting snagged on the trigger when re holstering.

                    I cannot recall where i heard this as it has been a while ago.
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                    • #25
                      I don';t know how most put a gun bck in their pocket holster. I carry 24/7 my PM9 in a desantis pocket holster and if i draw the gun for any reason, not necessarily in anger but just drawing it to do it. When I return it to my pocket the desantis holster comes out of my pocket the PM9 goes in the desantis and then and then ony is it reinstered back in my pocket. The triggeris never exposed to anything that might even think of catching. Its not rocket scikence to use common sense.. IMO a front pcket carry is never a fast draw carry, so use ur head when puttingit backin that area..
                      . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by JFootin View Post
                        Finger strait along the frame above the trigger opening.
                        This is exactly what I meant in my previous post. This can even help improve your aim. I know, I know, it's 'finger pointing', but in this case
                        it doe's help!!

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                        • #27
                          Thanks for all the feedback and the warm welcome.
                          I put in an order for a Foxx Trapp and will be practicing draw/holstering for sure.
                          I enjoy shooting the MK9, although I have had a couple jams in the ~200 rounds I've shot. Steel casings?

                          Off topic: Can I store it "cocked" with a round in the chamber? The manual said to unload it and dry fire.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by DubDubU View Post
                            I did see a warning about the plastic or wooden balls used on the draw strings at the waist of some jackets or windbreakers hanging down and getting snagged on the trigger when re holstering.

                            I cannot recall where i heard this as it has been a while ago.
                            Last week I took a weapons retention class and the instructor said that most of the police AD's are a result of the wooden/plastic drawstring balls getting caught in the trigger during re holstering. This instructor is a detective, a weapons retention instructor, and defensive tactics instructor for the police academy. Plus he was in special forces while he was in the marines.
                            To say the least it was a great class

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                            • #29
                              Yes, you can keep it loaded as long as it is secure from untrained hands. That's your call. I never have to check because I know all my guns are loaded which is the way we should treat them all anyway.

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                              • #30
                                I prefer plastic, or kydex holsters because they retain their shape very well. This will minimize the risk of an accidental discharge while registering. Leather will eventually get soft, and possibly turn inward, and it could possibly end up getting caught on the trigger.

                                None of my pistols, except my luger, have a safety. So I am always very careful when I am re-holstering.

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