Blackhawk #4 pocket holster works great with the PM9 and will easily work with the Pm9 and a LG437 laser attached.
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I have tried four different pocket holsters for my PM9 and none of them have been satisfactory to me.Originally posted by AFVet View PostIf you carry your PM9 in the front pocket, would you mind telling me what holster you use? I'm trying to find one that will conceal very well. Additionally, if you could provide a picture, that'd be great too.
The four are a Galco PH460 Horsehide holster, an Uncle Mike's Sidekick #3, a DeSantis Nemesis, and a Kahr ambidextrous pocket holster. All four protect the trigger, hold the gun upright, and seem fairly durable. But when I draw the gun from my pocket none of the four stay in the pocket. This is true with at least two types of pants and shorts that I wear the most. The Galco will stay in the pocket if I can hook the holster on the bottom edge of the pocket as I draw the gun; catching the hook on the pocket is a hit-or-miss thing.
This tendency of these holsters to come out with the gun is IMO a very big deal, because it makes drawing the gun from a pocket with these holsters a two-hand task. In a defensive situation we may only have one hand available to draw the gun. The other hand may be disabled, fending off an attack, holding a flashlight, herding a loved one, etc.
Interestingly, my S&W 642 and 649 j-frame revolvers draw just fine from these same pockets when carried in a DeSantis Nemesis or in an out-of-production Bianchi synthetic pocket holster. These holsters with those guns always remain in the pocket when I draw the gun.
I originally bought the PM9 almost five years ago as a higher-capacity replacement for the 5-shot j-frame gun. The j-frame for me is a backup to my IWB-carried Glock 34. Thus far, because of the holster issue, the j-frame is still my pocket gun.
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not to sure any front pocket holster is going to be a fast draw type rig. It is their to protect the gun from AD, by covering the trigger area. to try to draw out of jeans, I just dont think any holster will make u happy . I have tried them all (darn near) from leather to what ever and I still end up with my Desantis. It certainly is not a fast draw holster and I accept that for the safety it gives me and the total ease of concealability. waist band would be the best for sure but I just don't want to dress to carry waist band. If speed is what yopur looking for then more than likely pocket carry is not the answer. I guess I don't feel that is a total detorant over mayb enot carrying at all. Alot also depends on how tight my jeans are to in ease of getting it in and out.... My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border
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I have used a Mika pocket holster for years with a snubbie. I love it...I have just started using it for the PM9, same holster, works great.
I disagree on pocket carry not being a fast presentation, It is much faster than IWB for me....you can casually have your hand on the gun, if you perceive something that makes you nervous, and no one thinks anything about it. If you do that with IWB it screams gun to everyone. I think pocket carry has a distinct advantage.I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness,
nor the arrow for its swiftness,
nor the warrior for his glory.
I love only that which they defend.
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I hadn't considered that theory, the casual hand on the gun deal but it definitely sounds viable for sure. Pocket carry doens't work for me since sitting and lying down are my only modes but for vertical types it would work. Same as a gun in a coat pocket, can be in your hand and aimed at whatever is making you nervous and they never know.Originally posted by bps3040 View PostI have used a Mika pocket holster for years with a snubbie. I love it...I have just started using it for the PM9, same holster, works great.
I disagree on pocket carry not being a fast presentation, It is much faster than IWB for me....you can casually have your hand on the gun, if you perceive something that makes you nervous, and no one thinks anything about it. If you do that with IWB it screams gun to everyone. I think pocket carry has a distinct advantage.
I apply pretty much the same thinking to my ankle rig. I figure I'll go into the fetal please don't hurt me I'm just a derelict mode which puts the ankle rig in easy reach. With just about any pants other than jeans or unmodigied sweath pants it's pretty quick to access and no longer be a frightened little derelict but a large sheep dog on wheels with big teeth. SURPRISE BAD GUY!http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
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That's why I carry IWB behind my billfold, and multi-tool the reach looks like I'm going to hand money over then guess what it's not.Attitude: it takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile...and 3 for proper trigger squeeze.
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I don't think my Uncle Mike's #4 has ever come out with my CW9 or PM45. However, for an inside jacket pocket, I have a leather holster I got sometime ago. It's really suppose to work like a paddle holster, but instead of a paddle, it has a stiff leather fold over strap with a magnet at the bottom. there is a corresponding magnet at the bottom edge of the holster, and when the two come together, this thing ain't moving. Being a right handed paddle design, it works perfectly as a cross draw inside pocket holster, and holds the pistol up where you can grab it.Originally posted by oldtex View PostI have tried four different pocket holsters for my PM9 and none of them have been satisfactory to me.
The four are a Galco PH460 Horsehide holster, an Uncle Mike's Sidekick #3, a DeSantis Nemesis, and a Kahr ambidextrous pocket holster. All four protect the trigger, hold the gun upright, and seem fairly durable. But when I draw the gun from my pocket none of the four stay in the pocket. This is true with at least two types of pants and shorts that I wear the most. The Galco will stay in the pocket if I can hook the holster on the bottom edge of the pocket as I draw the gun; catching the hook on the pocket is a hit-or-miss thing.
This tendency of these holsters to come out with the gun is IMO a very big deal, because it makes drawing the gun from a pocket with these holsters a two-hand task. In a defensive situation we may only have one hand available to draw the gun. The other hand may be disabled, fending off an attack, holding a flashlight, herding a loved one, etc.
Interestingly, my S&W 642 and 649 j-frame revolvers draw just fine from these same pockets when carried in a DeSantis Nemesis or in an out-of-production Bianchi synthetic pocket holster. These holsters with those guns always remain in the pocket when I draw the gun.
I originally bought the PM9 almost five years ago as a higher-capacity replacement for the 5-shot j-frame gun. The j-frame for me is a backup to my IWB-carried Glock 34. Thus far, because of the holster issue, the j-frame is still my pocket gun.
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scenario, u are definitely right. NO hand in the pocket it is slower by far. I have pocket carried for 48 years and it doesn't get any faster either with my J frame or my PM9.Originally posted by bps3040 View PostI have used a Mika pocket holster for years with a snubbie. I love it...I have just started using it for the PM9, same holster, works great.
I disagree on pocket carry not being a fast presentation, It is much faster than IWB for me....you can casually have your hand on the gun, if you perceive something that makes you nervous, and no one thinks anything about it. If you do that with IWB it screams gun to everyone. I think pocket carry has a distinct advantage.
but the element of surprise I feel is on my side. I feel if a BG knows your carrying, then the element of surprise is now on his side. And again we can IMO get overly paranoid about all of this to.
Carry what ever u can carry MOST OF THE TIME, otherwise one trip out the door without your defense weapon, could be ur last. I guess thats why all these years I have chosen pocket carry because I just won't dress to carry and pocket carry although maybe slower at times is still better than the gun sitting on the vanity while one goes to wal mart for something..
and as wehave all read so many times, everyone has their own method of how they carry, and to me it doesn't matter if you carry it stuck up ur a-s,JUST MAKE SURE YOUR CARRYING!!!. My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border
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First time poster but I believe I can offer some insight. I have pocket carried exclusively for the past two years and have a great system. I use a desantis sof tuck. I cant the clip all the way back and clip it outside my pants pocket. This cant forces the grip forward concealing it under my t-shirt and offers great comfort and retention. It also provides a very fast draw. This system works great for any un tucked shirt. If you need to tuck for some reason, just shove the whole holster in your pocket. I've definitely found a good belt helps any kind of carry and I use a wilderness tactical five stitch.
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Uncle Mikes #3 is what I use with my PM9.
The Uncle Mikes and the Blackhawk brand look almost identical (I wonder if they are made by the same factory?)
I just ordered a Blackhawk #4 to use with the PM9 and a laser, even though the Uncle Mikes #3 would probably work as well with the laser, I decided to try the Blackhawk brand.
Occasioanlly my holster will come out with the gun, so I just swipe it quickly off the gun as I bring the gun up to eye level. Still very fast.
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I can verify that the Blackhawk #4 pocket holster (looks similar to Uncle Mikes #4) will fit a Kahr PM-9 with or without the LaserGuard LG-437 from Crimmson Trace. No modifications required. Perfect snug fit. Price: $10 - $12.Originally posted by AFVet View PostIf you carry your PM9 in the front pocket, would you mind telling me what holster you use? I'm trying to find one that will conceal very well. Additionally, if you could provide a picture, that'd be great too.Baby you can drive my carYes I'm gonna be a starBaby you can drive my carAnd maybe I'll love you
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