Night Sights

[robistro]

CM-9 looking to replace the front sight with a night sight. Never installed one myself, but since there are only 2 holes in the CM9 seems simple enough to install on my own.
My question is, do I need to worry about the height of the sight, are they manufactured to fit with the factory rear sight? or should I replace both front and rear sights? I dont really want/need to replace the rear, but if thats required then so be it.

[Ed M]

Some just replace the front sight with the Trijicon night sight. The CM9 is also sold this way by Kahr. No issues that I've heard of.

Maybe this will help...

[bugs]

I went this route without a problem;not satisfied with either set up though, and had my LGS dovetail the front and installed grn./yel. TFOs. now I can see the sights any time, day/night on my CM9 EDC/COMP. best purchase made in a long time.

NRA LIFER
IDPA BELEIVER

[robistro]

I went this route without a problem;not satisfied with either set up though, and had my LGS dovetail the front and installed grn./yel. TFOs. now I can see the sights any time, day/night on my CM9 EDC/COMP. best purchase made in a long time.

NRA LIFER
IDPA BELEIVER

approximate cost to dovetail a slide? not sure Id want to go that route, since the CM9 is what it is, but if cost is reasonable I may consider. Thanks

[Ed M]

Haven't done a lot of research on this, but from what I've found, this is about average...

http://eastonfirearmsrefinishing.com...ces/Sights.php

As much as I like Truglo sights, I'll just make do with the Trijicon set from Kahr. Doesn't make sense to me to spend another $220+ on a $320 pistol, but if it makes you happy.....

[robistro]

Haven't done a lot of research on this, but from what I've found, this is about average...

http://eastonfirearmsrefinishing.com...ces/Sights.php

As much as I like Truglo sights, I'll just make do with the Trijicon set from Kahr. Doesn't make sense to me to spend another $220+ on a $320 pistol, but if it makes you happy.....

I was just curious, I have never had the need to have a slide milled, thus the question on cost.
If this was really a concern or deal breaker, I would have bought the PM9. Thanks for the post

[bugs]

robistro, the dovetail/sight inst. cost me $75; counting the cost of the CM9 new, + cost of the dovetail, it was still cheaper then a new PM9, which would have needed the TFOs anyway.

NRA LIFER

IDPA BELEIVER

[wrfabus]

Try Dawson Precision.....https://dawsonprecision.com/copy-of-...optic-front-1/

[robistro]

Try Dawson P
recision.....https://dawsonprecision.com/copy-of-...optic-front-1/

Thank you wrfabus. I also went back to the Kahr site and now the front sight is available. Not sure wth was going on the other day, so I just ordered one from Kahr

[wrfabus]

Thank you Robistro...I just ordered a set for my CT45 also.

[gb6491]

CM-9 looking to replace the front sight with a night sight. Never installed one myself, but since there are only 2 holes in the CM9 seems simple enough to install on my own.
My question is, do I need to worry about the height of the sight, are they manufactured to fit with the factory rear sight? or should I replace both front and rear sights? I dont really want/need to replace the rear, but if thats required then so be it.

Thank you wrfabus. I also went back to the Kahr site and now the front sight is available. Not sure wth was going on the other day, so I just ordered one from Kahr

When I had my CM9, I used that Trijicon front sight Kahr offers with the OEM rear sight and found that combo shot to the same POA/POI as the complete set of OEM sights.





Also:

Seeing as how there are variances in how slides are countersunk for the front sight posts on "C" (and "E") series guns, I thought I'd put up some diagrams in regards to what I've found is involved with "fitting" the Trijicon front night sight. YMMV.
First, do a dry run installation.
Check that the sight will fit flush on the slide. Then check the posts for correct clearance on the inside of the slide. Finally, install the screw and check that it holds the sight flush to the slide and fits correctly into the countersink.


*note - in the diagrams, fit of the sight posts in their holes and screw head in the countersink are exaggerated to show the parts clearly. The posts fit closely in real life and the screw head will be in contact with the sides/bottom of the countersink.

Once satisfied that the fit is correct, install using an adequate amount of red Loctite.

Post #27 contains instruction for removing the factory front sight and installing the Trijicon sight (some mention in post #1 as well).

Regards,
Greg

to be continued........

[gb6491]

Continued from post #11:

Front sight installation:

Kahr OEM: From this thread http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=5623


Dawson Precision: Dawson Precision now offers front sights for Kahr CW series pistols: www.dawsonprecision.com SIGHTS FRONT:Kahr Front Sights Category.
Installation instructions: http://www.dawsonprecision.com/image...%20Insert2.pdf
See the Dawson night sight installed here: http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?p=59903#post59903

Trijicon: Try contacting a Kahr Sales representative about purchasing just the front Trijicon sight.
To install the Trijicon front night sight, you'll first need to remove the OEM sight. It's held on by two plastic posts that have their ends melted to act as rivet heads:

Tape around the sight to protect the slides finish, then use pliers to break the front sight posts (a slight rocking motion will accomplish this):

A quick video of how easy the front sight comes off: OEM sight removal

Then use a tool to remove the remainder of the posts from the holes in the slide.

The Trijicon sight is installed with Loctite and a small screw that goes into the rear post:

Installation went smoothly on my CW45:

However, I did have issue with the sight screw on the CW9 preventing the gun from going into battery (this has been reported by others as well); well actually, it was bad enough to preclude assembly of the pistol. I was able to work around it by cleaning up and enlarging the countersink done by Kahr on the front sight post hole (see post #63 for further instruction in regards to fitting the front sight):


Note: Some members have posted photos of newer CW9 and CM9 pistols that show Kahr has increased the depth of the countersink on these pistols.
Finished:

Regards,
Greg

[robistro]

gb6491
Super Moderator <<<< Thank you sir for taking the time to post the installation pics and instructions. I GREATLY appreciate the help.

Edit- I forgot to add, some shananigans seem to be going on with Kahrs web site. I couldnt find the front sight only by searching through the main web page. I did a Google search for Kahr Front Sight and followed a link which then took me to a page on Kahrs web site where I could order the front sight only for the CM9.
I did check to make sure it wasnt a phishing site, everything seemed legit, so I ordered the front sight. Strange..Maybe Kahr has a limited supply and is releasing for sale in short time periods.

[Ed M]

Greg - That's one HECK of a fine description w/photos of the process of changing out the front sight on a CM9.

I did this install 2 days ago on my CM9, and the whole process for the front sight swap took all of 5 minutes. The rear sight was also easy - about as dificult as a Glock sight swap (as easy as it gets).

In hindsight (no pun intended), I would have been just as happy with the stock rear sight combined with the front night sight.

[wrfabus]

FYI - Kahr currently has the Night Sights in stock for the CT, CM series but are not shipping them due to not having received the little tubes of Loctite. I ordered my sights last Saturday and they put the funds on hold in my bank account and they sent me an email stating the sights are backordered until 4-20. So I called and asked and thats when they told me they have the sights but are not shipping. So of course I asked if they could ship without the LocTite and the lady said yes. So I asked if in the realm of possibility the sight fell off because of them not sending the LocTite (which can be purchased most hardware stores and I would buy it there), am I covered by the warranty? She could not find an answer. So my next question was are they going to keep the funds on hold until they get the LocTite in to ship the sights and is there a possibility that they could be ready to ship on 4-20? No definitive answer there either. I would have been better off not calling and being told "we have the sights, but are not shipping due to LocTite". Placing a hold on the funds is what irks me.....They have a card number, why can't they just charge it when ready to ship? No answer there either. Oh well, looks like Dawson Precision now has a shot at my business.