XS big dots vs. standard dots

[hsart]

In general I see only glowing reports on the Big Dots... but have heard a few people here complain about them because of various issues such as not being that good for short distance target shooting, and problems with fitting in certain holsters. My question is: why not Standard Dots to get the benefits of day/nite sights albeit with slightly less front sight pickup, solve the target/accuracy issue as well as not needing a new holster? Trying to figure out which ones to get on a few guns.

[jeepster09]

I like the big dot because it is fast and easy to see in any light, you get used to it. It does catch on some holsters.

[Bawanna]

I run the standard dot on any mid to full size gun. I have 4 sets now I think just so everything is familiar. It's fast enough for me, still shows up well for aging eyes and is plenty accurate. Any future compact, PM9, PM45, G36 etc will wear the big dot. The standard sights on my K40 actually have a pretty similar sight picture and I get along fine with them too.
The big dot is accurate as well, you just have to get used to it. Not that much different than that standard dot really. I like them alot. Work great for me.

[quikduk]

Bawanna45cal:

Do you have pics of the guns with the XS sights that you can post? I really want to get them for the MK and my XD9sc but I was hoping to get the big dots...assuming that they won't mess with my holster fitment.

Have you had any issues with this? If so, I may need the standard dots.

...oh...and your package is supposed to go out this coming Monday if the mailroom wasn't sleeping today...

[Bawanna]

Bawanna45cal:

Do you have pics of the guns with the XS sights that you can post? I really want to get them for the MK and my XD9sc but I was hoping to get the big dots...assuming that they won't mess with my holster fitment.

Have you had any issues with this? If so, I may need the standard dots.

...oh...and your package is supposed to go out this coming Monday if the mailroom wasn't sleeping today...

I don't think you'll have any real holster issues with either the big dot or the standard dot. Big dots would be great on the MK, I might consider standard dot on the XD9 but either would work fine. I'm not sure I have any pics that show the sights very well. I'll try to take a few tomorrow if my people give me few minutes to do important stuff. Kind of feeling poorly at the moment but maybe even later.
Your sending me a package?

[Bawanna]

Bawanna45cal:

Do you have pics of the guns with the XS sights that you can post? I really want to get them for the MK and my XD9sc but I was hoping to get the big dots...assuming that they won't mess with my holster fitment.

Have you had any issues with this? If so, I may need the standard dots.

...oh...and your package is supposed to go out this coming Monday if the mailroom wasn't sleeping today...

Well my pictures suck. I tried and tried but cant seem to get the sights to show up well. Jeepsters picture above is awesome and my hat is definitely off to him for his photo abilities.
Here's my Para Companion with fixed standard dot and my 14-45 Para with a melt down dovetailed adjustable standard dot set. My 7-45 Para is still wearing the fiber optics but one day soon they'll be knocked off and replaced with probably standard dot XS's as well. I'll shop for a better camera or maybe a better picture taker.

[jocko]

humm

In general I see only glowing reports on the Big Dots... but have heard a few people here complain about them because of various issues such as not being that good for short distance target shooting, and problems with fitting in certain holsters. My question is: why not Standard Dots to get the benefits of day/nite sights albeit with slightly less front sight pickup, solve the target/accuracy issue as well as not needing a new holster? Trying to figure out which ones to get on a few guns.

they are designed for SHORT DISTANCE shooting. That is the whole principal of the bog dots. Now get out to 15 yards plus and the dot cover alof area. Again it is a fast acquisition short range sight, that for me is excellent on my PM9. I have um on my jP380 also, which by all means is a close up personal defense gun.

Not sure about the holster thing, but these custom makers will make a channel for any sight you want,but you need to let them know. I carry both of my kahr sin a desantis and course it works fine with xs sights..

Most people love the xs, an then there are some who are guided into buying them buy guys like us who brag on them, only to find out that they do not like um. Best advice is to see if you can shoot someone gun with the xs big dot on it.. Might save some headaches down the road..

[quikduk]

Your sending me a package?

...er...yes...

It can go towards your PM45 fund...

[quikduk]

Best advice is to see if you can shoot someone gun with the xs big dot on it.. Might save some headaches down the road..

Got it. I tried (without ammo) at Cops West this past year and liked how fast I could pick them up.

[Bawanna]

Got it. I tried (without ammo) at Cops West this past year and liked how fast I could pick them up.

Usually and I think XS even states it in the paperwork at longer distances you can adjust and use the top of the big dot like a post so to speak. It's probably not technically (damn I sound like a rocket scientist) correct to say it's not accurate at long distances. Perhaps less pinpoint accurate than some sights but with practice a bit and it works well. I believe its even the same for the standard dot. Usually I cover the target, out at 20 yards and further you can drop down to a 6 oclock hold and hit well or at least people that shoot well can. Not sure I qualify for that or not.
I love em, they work for me, let me check the abbreviation list,,,,,hmmm YMMV. I rock!

[REACT]

I have been doing a lot of research since my old night sights are almost useless. XS 24/7 Express (big dot) sights are the most appealing to me after watching these two videos...

long distance shooting

YouTube - XS Sight Demo

up close and personal

YouTube - XS Sight Demo II

[jggonzalez]

I've got XS standard dot sights on my Kahr MK9, my Ruger SP101, and soon on my North American Arms .22lr mini-revolver. STOP SNICKERING! Its a fun little gun and the sight will look great...

I went with the standard dot instead of the big dot because it seemed to offer the best of both worlds - fast target acquisition and plenty of accuracy at long range. I regularly shoot my MK9 at 15 to 25 yards with no problem. I used to have a set of XS standard dots on my 1911 and it was a tack driver at long range. I don't have the gun anymore because I needed to sell it for emergency funds, but I sure enjoyed it while I had it.

[Bawanna]

As a follow up since this is the right place, I put a set of the XS Big Dot's on my (sure like that "MY" connotation) new PM45. Thanks again for the 100th time to ryoung who was my supplier.
They fit and work perfectly. This was my plan even prior to buying the gun, never dreamed it would all happen so quickly. It nearly came together before the first range session. Pretty good for an impatient person like me.
Anyhow I love em, a great match for a pistol this size, I'd do it again and again and recommend them without reservation.

[Wasabi]

Well my pictures suck. I tried and tried but cant seem to get the sights to show up well. Jeepsters picture above is awesome and my hat is definitely off to him for his photo abilities.
Here's my Para Companion with fixed standard dot and my 14-45 Para with a melt down dovetailed adjustable standard dot set. My 7-45 Para is still wearing the fiber optics but one day soon they'll be knocked off and replaced with probably standard dot XS's as well. I'll shop for a better camera or maybe a better picture taker.

Wow! Who's that on the wall in the last two pics? If she belongs to you, you are a lucky man.

[Bawanna]

Wow! Who's that on the wall in the last two pics? If she belongs to you, you are a lucky man.

That would be Mrs Bawanna and I am indeed a lucky man most of the time. You may have discovered why it takes me so long to get anything done out there.
Didn't realize she was in the pic, when I did realize, I wondered why no one noticed.