Proper prep of a new kahr

[OldLincoln]

But they say the ozone layer that protects earth from the sun is so thin it's tearing with holes on each of the poles. We obviously need more ozone, not less. Why aren't all the spray cans using ozone as propellant? Maybe we can kick start a few more volcanoes.

[jocko]

scoundrel. OK I'l bite, what the hell did u just say?????

[OldLincoln]

I read on the news links yesterday that now there's a bunch of ocean bacteria that have recently begun talking to each other and their bad breath is killing the earth. I'm not kidding, I just would never find it again now.

I think if you listen real carefully you might pick up on their conversation, "So a priest, rabbi and minister walk into this bar...." Couldn't help that one when I read the story.

[Bawanna]

Old spray cans didn't contain ozone. They contained bad stuff that kills ozone. That's why we stopped using them.

Global warming does not necessarily make every part of the globe warmer. It causes a chain of events that changes temperatures everywhere. Some places get warmer, others get colder. And it's bad. That is, if it's not a pile or horse manure concocted by scientists wanting more grant money to research it.

Al Gore promotes it, does that do anything to reinforce the horse manure factor.
I got enough to worry about with my VOC intake, I ain't sweating a little temperature change.

[JFootin]

Fellas, do we really want to be doing this to the most important sticky on the forum? Bawanna, time to do some cleanup just to keep the thread from unraveling at the end. BTW, each of you can delete your off subject posts and save Bawanna the trouble.

[Bawanna]

Good point. Do we just delete or move the chat someplace else. I can do whatever you all think is best.

[bitp]

#2. Clean your new gun;
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#3. Grease the slide rails, or if you prefer a particular gun oil, fine. Just lube the slide, or, better yet, go to the Kahr Tech section and hit on the Kahr lube section.

If I clean the gun as suggested all oil will be stripped from all of the slide components and the components inside the lower. Following the Kahr lube chart I'll lubricate all of the important spots. However, what about all of the metal inside the lower and upper that is left without any lubricant? For example, the whole outer surface of the slide would be left stripped of all oils. Will this encourage rust? So what is everyone doing to all of the unnumbered spots on the lube chart?

[jocko]

bitp: It ain't rocket science. all the metal parts on a kahr to my knowledge are stainless, barrel is stainless and nickel plated. wipe metal outside parts down with a silicone cloth or a lightly oiled cloth. I seriously doubt if it is gonna rust. Indeed when u clean a gun ur purpose is TO CLEAN THE GUN, so yes oil/greaseis gonna come off when cleaning, the lube chart gives u the important points to lube etc, u can certainly figure out from that what else might needs some TLC. . It ain't gonna fall apart if u oil in places that maybe is not needed and over time u will figure that part out also. a good rule of thumb is when two metal parts interact with each other, LUBE.

If u read the kahr tech section and hit on the propper prepping thread, it will help u alot to..

[Rubb]

If I clean the gun as suggested all oil will be stripped from all of the slide components and the components inside the lower. Following the Kahr lube chart I'll lubricate all of the important spots. However, what about all of the metal inside the lower and upper that is left without any lubricant? For example, the whole outer surface of the slide would be left stripped of all oils. Will this encourage rust? So what is everyone doing to all of the unnumbered spots on the lube chart?

FWIW I only clean the striker channel with the brake cleaner, which ended up being the whole slide by default with the overspray/wash out. I only started this recently after 1250 rounds and it removed A LOT of crud.

The striker channel should be cleaned more often than that IMO.. and mine will be going forward. I never had an issue but, judging by the crud that came out of that striker channel I could’ve….not good! I’ve not shot the PM9 since cleaning the channel but, after I do I’m going to clean the striker channel again…and the slide by default. I look at it this way…clean is good and the brake cleaner makes short work of cleaning up that slide. I do give the slide a CLP wipe on/wipe off afterwards.

For the bore it’s Hoppes with a jag (bronze brush when needed) and patches followed up with lube and patched dry. For the lower it’s Breakfree CLP with patches and Qtips.

All lubrication is CLP as shown in the lube chart, which is exactly how I did it before I even knew the chart existed… because I have a few years of small gun experience under my belt.....

[markrb]

I don't understand exactly what it is I am supposed to be sanding from this statement. "Then, if you have some 600+ grit auto sand paper, just roll it up like a pencil and polish the under side of the feed lips on your magazines."
I am sure it obvious to many here, but I don't understand. Is there a picture that can point it out for me?

Thanks,
Mark

[kahrlover123]

About using non-chlorinated brake cleaner, I have talked to about 20 people (from friends and relatives to strangers), non of them uses that. Some of them even say that those stuffs will "eat your barrel" in the long run. Some of them heard of people use it but all of them do not recommend me to use it.

I agree that it would save us some money using it but if it's a good/expensive guns (like Kahr), I do not think it's wise to save some money on the stuff that will mess up your gun in the long run. I am about to use it but decide not to.

[jocko]

haven't seen an EATEN BARREL YET. certainly some people don'tknow what the hell they are talking about . Kahrlover123, u do what your 20 ill informed friends told u and u will be good to go. I choose to go with what I know is OK also .

I have said before one should use what ever he thinks is right for them. If it was harmful u wold hear it on this forum and WE HAVEN'T

[kahrlover123]

If brake cleaner will “eat your barrel”…why wouldn’t it “eat” drums and rotors

Think about this:
1) How often do you use brake cleaner to clean your rotor or drum?
2) How often do you use brake cleaner to clean you barrel/gun?

It takes time for this stuff to "eat through"
You probably replace the drum (got eaten by the pads) before brake cleaner has a chance to do anything
Your drum/rotor is pretty cheap to replace, not the gun.

This is the way I look at it:
1) I go to the range once a week
2) I clean my gun once a week (sometimes twice depends on the time permitted) => a minimum 50 times a year
3) Personally, I do not want to see what brake cleaner will do to my barrel or gun but maybe it's just me.

[kahrlover123]

haven't seen an EATEN BARREL YET. certainly some people don'tknow what the hell they are talking about . Kahrlover123, u do what your 20 ill informed friends told u and u will be good to go. I choose to go with what I know is OK also .

I have said before one should use what ever he thinks is right for them. If it was harmful u wold hear it on this forum and WE HAVEN'T

If one or two say that, maybe he does not know what he's talking about. But this is a good number of people saying that so I take that into credibility.

Yes, you can do whatever you want and I can do whatever I want.

I just want to point out the possible negativity about brake cleaner on barrel/gun.

There is a REASON they have many GUN CLEANER products.
I even went as far as calling tech support to see what they say and they do NOT recommend using brake cleaner. People can verify that too.

[Bawanna]

If we want to discuss brake cleaner how about somebody start a new thread. We're walking pretty hard on the Proper Prep Thread and turning a useful bit of information into a very large unmanegable expose.