? about plating coming off feed ramp and chamber on PM9.

[Swat_dude]

I wonder why Kahr doesn't consider nitriding their barrels. I think it is less expensive than nickel plating and it doesn't add material that can come off but actually changes the composition of the steel, making it super hard and corrossion resistant. I missed this thread prior to sending my new gun to Robar after 200 rounds. I didn't notice any flaking but I also didn't check. Robar will coat everything except the chamber and bore. I paid extra to have the feed ramp polished after NP-3 was applied so if this is a bad barrel I am going to be quite pissed if I have to have it re-coated and re-polished.

[sviking]

That looks fishy to me!

RCG

What, 'cuz it looks like it's flaking off in scales? :001_tt2:

[Bawanna]

I wonder why Kahr doesn't consider nitriding their barrels. I think it is less expensive than nickel plating and it doesn't add material that can come off but actually changes the composition of the steel, making it super hard and corrossion resistant. I missed this thread prior to sending my new gun to Robar after 200 rounds. I didn't notice any flaking but I also didn't check. Robar will coat everything except the chamber and bore. I paid extra to have the feed ramp polished after NP-3 was applied so if this is a bad barrel I am going to be quite pissed if I have to have it re-coated and re-polished.

I would not worry until you know you got something to worry about. There's a very good chance your barrel will have no issues. Many times even problems are'nt problems until you discover them then we get all overwrought over small issues that are not worth getting overwrought about.
What did your whoroscope say this morning? Like I really believe that stuff.

[deadhead1971]

I am up to 1,214 rds in the new barrel--no flaking.

For you newbies out there, here are 2 other issues I have had with my PM9. The first link down has to do with the replacement barrels that were sent out to replace the ones that were flaking. This was an isolated case as I have not heard anyone bring this up again.

http://kahrtalk.com/kahr-tech/527-re...pointment.html

http://kahrtalk.com/kahr-tech/863-co...ed-flange.html

I love this little gun and would buy another one if something happened to it.

[sviking]

What did your whoroscope say this morning? Like I really believe that stuff.

Something like, "Fie dollah, GI? Me luv u long time."?

[jocko]

Kahr

I would not worry until you know you got something to worry about. There's a very good chance your barrel will have no issues. Many times even problems are'nt problems until you discover them then we get all overwrought over small issues that are not worth getting overwrought about.
What did your whoroscope say this morning? Like I really believe that stuff.

has been nickel plating their barrels since day 1, would hate to guess how many tens of thousands that would be. This past year they had some issues with a plating vendor. To my knowledge the issue has been solved, are there still some more out there that will in time flake--???Probably so. It is rare to happen and kahr has taken care of every plated barrel brought to their attention as flaking.
A properly nickel plated barrel has a very hight rockwell hardness and durability and corrosion resistance is some of the primary reason for nickel plating. I do know our military Beretta's are all nickel plated barrels and it was specified by the military to be that way.

Like Bawanna said, why worry about something that has not happened to you.

There is somewhere on this forum a nice thread posted as to how kahrs has their barrels plated and the reasons and the process which seems complicated to read , but the hardness is very very high.

[sviking]

kahr has taken care of every plated barrel brought to their attention as flaking.

I wonder how they'd handle a gun out of warranty. Kahr switched to a 5 year warranty years ago. Mine was made in 2005 and I bought it at the beginning of 2006. It came with a "5 year" warranty card... I'm not worried about having problems, but I still wonder how they deal with out of warranty claims, especially when it's obviously defects in THEIR "craftsmanship", such as these barrels with shoddy, flaking plating.

[jlottmc]

I'm gonna get flamed/stoned for this... A call to customer service should answer those questions.

[sviking]

I'm gonna get flamed/stoned for this... A call to customer service should answer those questions.

You'd be surprised... I asked some technical questions about the updated recoil spring assembly for PM9s regarding differences. I knew the newer springs were silver, but supposedly the round part end of the guide rod was a different size. I'm guessing it must be the end opposite the front of the slide, obviously. That was via email and I never got any response.

So... I asked "nicely" for a replacement for my "old" recoil assembly that is now, as of today, officially well over 1500 rounds (still no problems). They put one in the mail for me today for FREE so I can see for myself.

[tcb]

Just sent the barrel of my PM40 back yesterday for the same flaking issues you guys are haveing. Hopefully I'll get a good one and this will be the end of the drama. Ian was very nice and the service seems like a no hassle situation. I was noticing the flaking in the chamber and in small spots all down the barrel.

[sviking]

Yes, Ian at Kahr rocks! He's the one who just sent me a free PM9 recoil assembly.

[deadhead1971]

maybe we should start an "Ian Rocks" thread. Ian has helped me and responded to my e-mails for 2 warranty issues...etc. Ian needs a customer service award or something.

[deadhead1971]

Shot another 306 rounds (6 rds of this were speer +P)

Up to 1,520 rds through the new barrel and no flaking (1,945 total for the Pm9)

[deadhead1971]

I am bumping this up for the new guys to be aware of. I have not seen too many complaints lately.

[jocko]

not a bad idea, I am sure kahr has that issue taken care of, It was, I was told a vendor issue. probably still some of those barrels out there yet but some will never notice it even.