Wait For The New CW380 Or

[siam]

Buy a S&W Body Guard? We stopped at Shoot Straight yesterday & my wife looked at the Body Guard & fell in love with it. Comparing it(Body Guard) to information on line about the CW380 they are so close other then the carry weight & it is only just over an Oz heavier.

Thanks Mike

[jocko]

Ifshe canhand rack that body guard,which she should definitely try before buying, thenI would say for her to buy the body guard. Just looking and fallin in love a su know is not whatit is allabout. I wold bet anything she cannot hand rack or clear a jam in the cw380. I do think the cw380 willbe a better made gun but again it is what it is . It is a 380 made for defense more than anythning so not like she or u aregonna shoot eitherone to thebreakinpoint. I wooud say to that the cw380 is at leat 3 months away from anyone buyingone,if that matters any... Just saying

[siam]

As far as rack & clear a jam she currently carries a 9MM & has no problems she just wants something smaller to carry on her that does not have the bulk. She racked the body guard with no problem.

Mike

[TheTman]

Go with what your wife picks, or she probably won't like it or carry it, IF she can do what Jocko mentions. Wives are funny, often they won't listen to their husbands, but maybe if a mutual friend suggest the CW380, then she MIGHT have a look at it.
I looked at a Bodyguard, the built in laser is nice. Thats about all I have good to say about it. I'd just as soon have an LCP. Cost's less and had a better feel to it to me than the Bodyguard did. It shoots pretty well too, although I didn't have chance to shoot the Bodyguard. Just something about it turned me off to it. I really like my other S&W products, but the Bodyguard just didn't trip my trigger.
I don't know about the CW380 either, they had so many problems with the P380, I'm not sure I'd want a cheaper version of it. We see a lot less complaints on the P380 these days, maybe they are getting them to run better. I had an LCP for a couple weeks before I traded it for something in larger caliber. I think a .380 is a good "summer" gun, where it doesn't have to penetrate layers of clothing, and you need something small and light that you can hide easy.

[K.C.]

siam, My wife has a S&W bodyguard and it has been 100& reliable, it eats everything she put's through it. The downsides are that the sights suck,the laser takes a stiff push to activate and felt recoil sucks after you start to put a decent amount of rounds through it. Seems to me it needs a stiffer recoil spring??? In comparison, my P380 is a sheer joy to shoot and accurate as hell.

Based on the felt recoil, and accuracy I'd wait to see how the CW380 reviews turn out. I'd expect Kahr will get this one right unlike the P380.

[yqtszhj]

If she likes the bodyguard I say get it for her.

[Chogers]

I cant wait for the cw380! Its gotta be better then the P380 right? I wonder if its still going to have the same really stiff slide? Has anyone on here been able to see it and play with it yet?

[Cokeman]

It's going to be the same as the P380. It's basically the same gun with a few cosmetic changes and a slide that's a hair longer.

[adamog133]

I have the bodyguard 380. I also have the p380. imho, there is no comparison in quality. The Kahr p380 is by far superior over the bodyguard. The da trigger is so smooth. The bodyguard da trigger is rough and jumpy. On the lighter side, the bodyguard is much easier to rack the slide and has a manual thumb safety and hammer type trigger. I do like the striker fire action and no safety personally. just my opinion. My wife hates both my p380 and my pm45 though, too hard to rack she says.

[sealion]

We have a Bodyguard 380 in our stable as well. My Fiance' cannot rack the slide on my CM9-no way, no how. She can fully operate the Bodyguard. She is also more comfortable having a manual safety, although I do not care for one. The laser was a great selling point, but I would just as soon have night sights. I doubt the fiance even thinks about having a laser. I disagree with earlier post concerning the sights-they may not be as good as my CM9, but they beat the hell out of the sights on an LCP. Speaking of which, the LCP is in my opinion, a notch or so below the Bodyguard in just about every aspect...and yes, we have one of those, too. Extra mags are less expensive than Kahr's.

[wyntrout]

Most women can't do the "pinch" rack... but then a lot of MEN can't either. Both need to use the weak hand fingers over the slide(clear of the ejection port), thumb along the slide and pointing to the rear. Use the gun hand to simultaneously firmly push the gun as you give a vigorous rack with the weak hand and cleanly release the slide as it reaches the rear limit and is "snatched" from the weak hand. This approximates a real rack from firing and beats the slide release method WHEN executed properly. Much more strength can be exerted when this is done closer to the body.

ANY chambering attempt needs to be done with a FIRM grip on the pistol, so that gun movement doesn't absorb some of the needed slide momentum... also known as "limp wristing".

Wynn

[Cokeman]

Pinch rack?

[Rain]

Pinch rack is holding the rear of the slide between the thumb and finger as opposed to the method wyntrout described, "...use the weak hand fingers over the slide(clear of the ejection port), thumb along the slide and pointing to the rear." Personally, I use a slightly modified version of that method, taking the thumb out of play. I use the heel of my left (weak side) hand on the left rear of the slide with all four fingers wrapped around the slide contacting the right side of the slide.

[Cokeman]

Same as the slingshot?

[newCW45guy]

I have a Bodyguard .380 and a CW45.

If the trigger on the CW380 is like the 45 there should be no question. (Bodyguard has a very heavy trigger and the laser on the Bodyguard is virtually useless... low power and hard to activate)

That said I have fired a CM9 and that's my next planned purchase.