p380 black rose

[wthomaso]

is it possible to find a new p380 black rose? are they done making them? or are they on hold with all the high demand of guns?

[jocko]

drop kahr a line,they should be ableto tellu what u asked and direct u where to find one--maybe.that would sure be one pudy little gun. Just sayin

[wthomaso]

a "pudy" gun is A LOT better than no gun, and it's not for me, but for my girlfriend who's a little recoil sensitive and it's easier for a woman to conceal.

[JFootin]

Welcome to the forum!

If your GF is a little recoil sensitive, the P380 or any tiny pocket 380 might not be what you want because they have much more kick than, say, a PM9. My recommendation? The PM9 is very easy to conceal. Not really very much bigger than the P380. They make a black rose edition of the PM9, too.

[jocko]

OK

a "pudy" gun is A LOT better than no gun, and it's not for me, but for my girlfriend who's a little recoil sensitive and it's easier for a woman to conceal.

BUT LET ME TELLYOU SUMPIN, IT AIN'T THE LOOKS OF THE BLACK ROSE 380. iT IS A SUPER GUN, BUT i AM GONNA TELLYOU up front, u best take here to a gun shop that has the regular P380 as they are all internally the same, and le ther feel it and #1 see if she can rack the slide perfectly. My bet she willnot even get cflose to be able to doing that. If she can't rack the gun to clear a jam or to load a round or to unload thegun, then u have just bought yourself a great gun. What ur doiu is buyin by looks only and not the practicality of CAN SHE OPERATE THE GUN. Which IMO she will not be able to do. Kahrs are tight, Kahrs have very stout recoil springs kand the little P380 is so so small , there is just not alot to hold on to. Strength in this case does matter IMO.

Not trying to actually talk u out of it either but just telling you what I think you two shold do before ploppng down those kind of bucks..

[Short Bus]

Check out a Ruger LC380 (NOT a LCP!!!) A micro .380 is a handful!!!

[southx]

Lc380

My GF is recoil sensitive also. My CW 9 is more than she likes and aDB 380 is definitely to much. Picked up a Ruger LC380 and she is in love. Big enough to get a grip on, mild recoil and an easy slide. And it is a Ruger very good quality. Don't get me wrong, I carry a Cw9 c and a P380 and love them both but they are what they are: small, light and tight his = recoil and heavy springs.
Good Luck

[jocko]

in ur case u did exactaly the correct thing. U bought what SHE COULD HANDLE not what u thought she should have. We man make that mistake to often with buns. Seen it inb my gun business for manyt years. IMO it is better to have what I could calla big ass 380 that a woman can handle than aq small ass 22 that she cannot handle..

[wthomaso]

Mr. jocko, thanks for answering all of these questions I didn't have and assuming I haven't done any research! also, I don't need any opinions with how I should spend my money.

[Bawanna]

Mr. jocko, thanks for answering all of these questions I didn't have and assuming I haven't done any research! also, I don't need any opinions with how I should spend my money.

Jocko needs no defense from me but you might want to just ride the wave here for a bit to get a better handle on his personality and writing style.
To a relatively new guy he comes across a bit harsh perhaps but he's really trying to help you and the issues he mentioned are indeed worth noting.

And that's all I got to say about that.

[Sage]

Mr. jocko, thanks for answering all of these questions I didn't have and assuming I haven't done any research! also, I don't need any opinions with how I should spend my money.

Welcome to the forum wthomaso.

Note to self: Don't offer advice to wthomaso.

[ScooterS]

Mr. jocko, thanks for answering all of these questions I didn't have and assuming I haven't done any research! also, I don't need any opinions with how I should spend my money.

Gawsh Wthomaso... I'm as new here as you are, but I certainly wouldn't take on a senior member who is just trying to help.

Everyone here seems real friendly.

I'd respectfully suggest that you might ease up on the caffeine a bit before posting again.

[RRP]

It's a common mistake. We try to persuade our wives to carry, by enticing them with cute, little guns. The tiny pistols fit their small hands. The trigger-reach and mag release are compatible with their short fingers. They are light-weight and slim profile. Easily concealable.

On the surface, sub-compact pistols appear to be a perfect fit for our wives/girlfriends.

But there's a problem.

To compensate for recoil, sub-compacts often have recoil springs that are stiffer than full-sized pistols. And because the slides are so short, it is more difficult to get a strong grip on them. In the end, you have a pistol that many women (and men) cannot operate safely, because they can't work the action.

Anyone who has been here a while has seen countless threads on the subject. So, when Jocko advises a prospective buyer to ensure their wife/girlfriend can rack the slide of their selected pistol, before buying, he's only trying to help. And, he knows what he's talking about.

Many have made the mistake of buying a pistol their wives aren't happy with.

Some of us have used this as a way of acquiring sub-compacts we want for ourselves. Shhhhh.....don't tell her.

[southx]

Jocko
After 32000 rounds what have you had to repair/replace on your pet.
Just curious

Greg

[jocko]

I have a new left hand trigger finner..



recoil springs only, nuttin else.

and mighty I add it is 32K + rounds, I qit keepin records on it..