CW380 What is the fix for the slide not holding open on on empy mag?

[b4uqzme]

I read this forum long before I ever attempted my first post. I am a member of several other forums that I read but rarely post anything. I worried a great deal before I made my first post because there are many here that are so loyal to Kahr. I knew that several members would try to blame anyone or anything except the Kahr product. You were one of the ones that I feared the most. Thank you for being a "really nice old guy".

I have the gun and magazine apart tonight. I will check several things.

Certainly nothing to fear but of course we're loyal...duh! You getting' her all fixed up right?

[Arkhog]

I poked and prodded everything from the mag springs to the slide lock spring to the follower tab. My best guess for the slide only holding open randomly is that the magazine pivots a great deal in the mag well. I can pivot the magazine by hand toward the slide stop lever and the lever overlaps the tab on the follower very well. If I pivot the mag toward the ejection port then there is almost no tab to push up on the lever because it is out of position. It barely catches on the outside of the tab.

Greg's pictures and Buzzard's comments all fit with what I have found. Sometimes the tab and the lever make good contact. Most of the time they don't. It all depends on how much the mag is torqued inside the mag well. This would explain the randomness of the situation.

[yqtszhj]

That makes one wonder which part is out of spec, the follower, the magazine, or the slide release? If there is a round in the mag does the metal part of the follower stick far enough out to the left of the round to catch the slide release? If not that may be an issue? If the mag is too far left the rounds may contact the slide stop causing problems. Tight tolorances in there.

[gb6491]

I poked and prodded everything from the mag springs to the slide lock spring to the follower tab. My best guess for the slide only holding open randomly is that the magazine pivots a great deal in the mag well. I can pivot the magazine by hand toward the slide stop lever and the lever overlaps the tab on the follower very well. If I pivot the mag toward the ejection port then there is almost no tab to push up on the lever because it is out of position. It barely catches on the outside of the tab.

Greg's pictures and Buzzard's comments all fit with what I have found. Sometimes the tab and the lever make good contact. Most of the time they don't. It all depends on how much the mag is torqued inside the mag well. This would explain the randomness of the situation.

You could probably verify that by putting a piece of mole skin in the magazine well to limit the "play", similar to what this member did with some Velcro: http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.p...7289#post67289
Regards,
Greg

[smokersteve]

Or you could send it back to Kahr on their dime

[muggsy]

I read this forum long before I ever attempted my first post. I am a member of several other forums that I read but rarely post anything. I worried a great deal before I made my first post because there are many here that are so loyal to Kahr. I knew that several members would try to blame anyone or anything except the Kahr product. You were one of the ones that I feared the most. Thank you for being a "really nice old guy".

I have the gun and magazine apart tonight. I will check several things.

You don't have to fear me, Arkhog. I'm all talk and very little action. (Just ask Jocko) If you own a gun you are my friend. I sometimes forget that there is very little voice inflection in the written word and sometimes what I say is taken the wrong way. Yer ok, I'm ok. Welcome aboard. We'll get it fixed. There's very little play in any of the magazines in either of my Kahr pistols. In fact I had, a problem with getting the mags to drop free. You might consider trying a new mag latch. Kahr service would probably send you one for free. It's also possible that you have a bad frame. In which case that's covered by the warranty.

[Arkhog]

Thanks to all for helping. Now that I have seemingly figured out the problem I will more than likely send it in at some point. That would be the guns second visit to Kahr. I am wondering if they didn't create the no lock back issue when they replaced the slide stop. My original problem was mostly feed type issues. Their fix was to replace the slide stop. After the gun came back was the first time I noticed the random or lack of holding open on an empty mag. They may have modified the mag well also. It looks as if some of the polymer is shaved or sanded down inside the magazine well. Maybe they did that to help feeding issues.

The holiday season would be a crappy time to have a gun in transit. I may wait until the shipping season dies down. The first few posts were rough, but, after we got to know each other it seems to have smoothed out. Thanks again.

[big bear]

I had the same problem. I called Kahr and told them what was happening and they sent me a new magazine follower. Works fine now. Just my 2 cents.

[yqtszhj]

I had the same problem. I called Kahr and told them what was happening and they sent me a new magazine follower. Works fine now. Just my 2 cents.

Bingo

[jocko]

Muggsy is right, u won't find a friendlier fourm. all of these guys are here to help, many are knowledgeable. Listen to them try what they suggest but do no serious mods for if all else fails Kahr will make it right. most of the time these issues can be solved by the membership who have already walke din ur shoes down the same path.

[muggsy]

Jocko, are you feeling Ok? You agreed with me and didn't even insult me once in that post. Something is wrong here.