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    Okay, so I just put 150 rounds downrange for the first time with the CW380. Had followed he lube guide and racked the slide a whole lot to break it in dry. I was very impressed with how easy it was to shoot, and I liked that it wasn't nearly as snappy as I was expecting (had a Walther ppk/s and it was real hard on the wrists). I had several failures to feed, round just wouldn't advance until I pulled the slide back. I am assuming it was the feed ramp which I will buff out tonight(any thoughts on this are welcome). Going to try and qualify with the gun on Sunday, so the next 50 rounds will round out the "Break-in" which I expect to actually take a couple hundred more rounds. I was right on target at 7 yards, all center of the standard silhouette, but out at 15 yards where I have to fire all 6 rounds within the 8 I was not so accurate. Several of the shots were low, so I will just have to take my time. Also had a few out of the 8 while shooting my weak hand, will just have to take my time...

    Al in all, I really like the gun. easy to shoot. Will be my summertime pocket gun, which I am really looking forward to after concealing a P45 for 3 years. The P45 ill remain my every day carry at work, but weekends with cargo shorts will be dedicated to the CW380.

    OH, i forgot to add that all of the rounds fired were Blazer Brass.

  • #2
    There are a number of things that can contribute to a round failing to chamber properly. I wouldn't be concerned until you pass the two hundred round mark. Blazer Brass doesn't use the cleanest burning powder. Clean the gun after every 100 rounds during the break-in and run the gun well lubed. A firm wrist helps to eliminate most feeding problems in the Kahr .380s.
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    • #3
      Thanks Muggsy,

      I agree, I am not terribly concerned at this point. I'll keep an eye on my limp wrist lol. Actually don't think that was it, was paying close attention to my grip and making sure my wrists were locked. Also, I really didn't find it hard to control at all. I'll clean it well tonight and lube it up.

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      • #4
        Okay, this past Sunday I went back out to qualify and I got a 245/250 with both my 1911 and the CW380. The Kahr's grouping was actually tighter than the 5" Kimber! However, I still had the failure to feed issue. I had cleaned the gun, buffed the ramp and reoiled the gun. This happened about 4 times in the 50 round course of fire. I am trying to decide if I should just send it off to Kahr now as my appointment to modify my CCW isn't till April 20. I just don't want to waste money at the range if it is something they are gonna fix.

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        • #5
          You could try lightly polishing the breech face, and extractor, and the top inside of the chamber.

          I prefer to use grease for lube for most places on my guns, and be sure to lube the recoil springs and guide rod well.

          May want to try some different ammo too, PMC Bronze FMJ works well in our CW380's.

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          • #6
            I'll give those rounds a shot, pun intended. [emoji39]

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            • #7
              Originally posted by KahrArmed View Post
              Okay, this past Sunday I went back out to qualify and I got a 245/250 with both my 1911 and the CW380. The Kahr's grouping was actually tighter than the 5" Kimber! However, I still had the failure to feed issue. I had cleaned the gun, buffed the ramp and reoiled the gun. This happened about 4 times in the 50 round course of fire. I am trying to decide if I should just send it off to Kahr now as my appointment to modify my CCW isn't till April 20. I just don't want to waste money at the range if it is something they are gonna fix.
              I would send it back but don't assume it will return to you fixed. Mine wasn't.

              muggsy: Let's face it, being shot by a .380 will ruin anyone's day.

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              • #8
                "... I had several failures to feed, round just wouldn't advance until I pulled the slide back..."

                ?? makes me think it was slide locking back prematurely -IF pulling the slide back was the remedy??
                I had a time with my new CT 380 locking back. In the beginning I was thinking it was a mis-feed or fail to feed...and it wasn't, it was slide locking back.
                A poster on another forum gave me the fix- start at post #14... http://www.**************/forums/kah...t-380-a-2.html
                Certified Armed Infidel

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                • #9
                  CW380 Range Day

                  Can you repost that link? The site is coming through stared out.

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                  • #10
                    Thats from kahr arms forum.....I don't think this forum will allow the link.
                    If you can go to the Kahr Armed forum and look for the thread- "Finally got a chance to shoot my new CT 380" ....start with post number 14.
                    Certified Armed Infidel

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                    • #11
                      There has been lots of info posted here on KahrTalk about "premature slide lock back" If that is your problem.

                      http://www.kahrtalk.com/search.php?searchid=503366&pp=

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                      • #12
                        Okay, so I talked to Kahr support today, and described what was happening. He gave me several suggestions. The feed ramp was not one of them.
                        1. Limp wrist. (possibly, I'll have to keep an eye on that)
                        2. Thumb touching the slide lock when firing. (Possibility, checked without firing and thumbs don't seem to rest there, but will keep an eye on it)
                        3. Bent slidestop spring. (according to him not likely because it would happen more often, it only happened 4 times with 50 rounds)
                        4. Finally he suggested removing the slide, placing the sidestop in place, and looking to see if the rounds were touching it. I have done that and son't see that they are even if I try and push them towards it as I also push them up and down in the mag.

                        My conclusion: This is not a failure to feed issue, it is a slide lock issue. He told me those were the only things that could cause the issue of having the slide lock back prematurely.

                        Fix: Wrist exercises (Maybe I haven't been getting enough alone time. LOL), cut off my thumbs (making even holding the gun a challenge), Keep an eye on the spring to make suer it doesn't appear bent (it doesn't , and the slide stop fits in place nicely right under the pin).

                        I will upload some photos of the slide stop and rounds in the mag in a separate post.

                        Any further thoughts?

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                          • #14
                            I recently purchased a CW380 and had all sorts of jams with all sorts of ammo, including failure to feed, and slide locking back in the middle of a string. I put 200 rounds thru it and was running out of patience, time and money. I really wanted to like this gun, but it was like a single shot using certain brands! I contacted Kahr warranty and got a quick response with a Fedex mailing label. After sending in the gun I got it back in 10 days. Ever since it has functioned perfectly. They replaced the recoil springs, and polished the feed ramp a little more, and that seemed to make all the difference. Can't say enough good things about their warranty department. And the gun is awesome now! Using PMC ball ammo it shoots 2-3" groups offhand at 40'. So I say contact Kahr warranty now!

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                            • #15
                              And I did all the things you did, thinking I was limp wristing it (should never be a problem as this little gun has hardly any recoil), or that my thumb was contacting the slide release lever and making sure my thumb was high and dry. I did all my contact with Kahr via email.

                              Had such a good experience I am looking to buy another Kahr.

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