CW45/P45: Flush fit magazine - UPDATED

[gb6491]

Do you find this flush fit magazine harder to change than the standard baseplate?

In normal operation, I've not had any difficulty removing that particular magazine (it's a Kimpro). Obviously there's a less to grab (in comparison to a Kahr mag) if something were to occur that made the magazine more difficult to remove, but as I've not had that happen, I can't properly address it.
I should point out that the Kimpro magazine has less "front lip" to it's base plate than most of the other Officer's magazines I use. I can get a substantially better grip (front to back) on the mags with the longer "lip".

The first mag I used (still do) was this Metalform


If I were concerned about the Kimpro, the grip could be scalloped on the sides easily enough to allow extra purchase on the sides of the mag.
Something like this:

Regards,
Greg

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Same here. It would be a great improvement over the standard blocky plastic plate. Little things like that make a difference when carrying concealed. Dunno why Justin Moon refuses to make the metal base plate standard for the bigger models.

I agree. Kahr should have a flush base plate standard on mags for the models with the longer grip handles (CW45, CT45 etc.). I also use a 1911 officer's mag in my CW45 (see my posts #348-349-350 in this thread). It does make a substantial difference in concealability.

[DavidWJ]

Do you find insertion of the mag into the grip more difficult with the flush baseplate? I've found the extended baseplate on the Kahr makes mag insertion much easier than on my 1911 flush mag. I can palm the mag into the Kahr, which I cannot do with the 1911.

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Do you find insertion of the mag into the grip more difficult with the flush baseplate? I've found the extended baseplate on the Kahr makes mag insertion much easier than on my 1911 flush mag. I can palm the mag into the Kahr, which I cannot do with the 1911.

Not really. When inserting the mag, I just give it a solid tap with the heel of my hand to seat it.

[gb6491]

Do you find insertion of the mag into the grip more difficult with the flush baseplate? I've found the extended baseplate on the Kahr makes mag insertion much easier than on my 1911 flush mag. I can palm the mag into the Kahr, which I cannot do with the 1911.

I've no issues inserting the Officer's/compact magazines into my CW45.
In comparison to the magazine fit in a 1911/1911A1, calling the Officer's/compact magazine in the CW45 "flush" is a misnomer.

Regards,
Greg

[Yourconfused]

I know this thread is all about the CW45 but I have a CW9 and couldn't find anything about a similar solution for it. Is there a flat metal bottom solution for the CW9?

[gb6491]

I know this thread is all about the CW45 but I have a CW9 and couldn't find anything about a similar solution for it. Is there a flat metal bottom solution for the CW9?

The only flat "flat metal bottom solution" that I know of for the CW9 is to use the metal base plates that Khar offers
http://www.kahr.com/magazines/2/magazines.aspx
http://www.kahr.com/Magazines/3/Magazines.aspx
Here's what they look like in the pistol:


There was a guy making "flush fit" magazines for the Springfield Armory EMP. He did this by making metal plates and welding them in place. There's a "how-he-done-it" here: https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=289542
If you are (or know someone who is) handy enough, something similar could be done for the P/CW9. There's been folks do so for the PM45: http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.p...Mags-in-a-PM45

Regards,
Greg

[Tilos]

Not metal, but by carefully trimming a

Kahr 045PM9 Magazine Base
http://www.kahr.com/Pistol-Parts/Kah...se-7-round.asp



You can eliminate the gap of the metal base plate.


I cut it too long, and filed it until the mag just clicks in the gun...no more pinky pinching gap.
And an improvement over the stock base plate.

just sayin'

[Yourconfused]

The only flat "flat metal bottom solution" that I know of for the CW9 is to use the metal base plates that Khar offers
http://www.kahr.com/magazines/2/magazines.aspx
http://www.kahr.com/Magazines/3/Magazines.aspx
Here's what they look like in the pistol:


There was a guy making "flush fit" magazines for the Springfield Armory EMP. He did this by making metal plates and welding them in place. There's a "how-he-done-it" here: https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=289542
If you are (or know someone who is) handy enough, something similar could be done for the P/CW9. There's been folks do so for the PM45: http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.p...Mags-in-a-PM45

Regards,
Greg

Thanks for the great info. I will check out the links you provided.

[Dragracer]

I just picked up a CW45, and so far like it. I modified a Kimber Officer mag with the Kahr internals, and it seems to work fine.

From what I've read the Mec-Gar MGCO4506 6rd Officer's mag will work with no mods. Is this correct?? Where's the best place to get them??

[Armybrat]

I just picked up a CW45, and so far like it. I modified a Kimber Officer mag with the Kahr internals, and it seems to work fine.

From what I've read the Mec-Gar MGCO4506 6rd Officer's mag will work with no mods. Is this correct?? Where's the best place to get them??

Bought my nickel plated Officer's mag here, but those are out of stock - they still have some blue ones:

http://www.exilemachine.net/shop/mec...-bl-63985.html

[Dragracer]

Thanks for the link, ArmyBrat. I've found a few on eBay for 18-19 dollars with free shipping.

[OneWheelLess]

Hey guys, just found this forum, I own two cw45s and a cw380.
I carry my cw45 with two kimber KimPro Tac compact 7 round mags. I removed 1/16" from the top lip of the mag (similar to the beginning of this thread) in order to keep it flush with the frame. I've noticed some mags require quite a bit more. These mags run flawlessly with the stock internals, and the follower locks the slide back as it should when the mag is empty. I had found these through a post somewhere else. Some guns will run these without modification. One of my cw45s would run these stock but with some slide contact, the other one wouldn't at all. All my mags now run flawlessly in both guns. I also have a colt 7 round officers mag that runs well but will not lock the slide back due to the follower design.
The 7 round compact pro Tac mags are a great way to get an extra round in a reliable flush fit mag.

The kimber stainless pro Tac mags can be found for around 22 bucks up to 30+ depending on where you look.

[Dragracer]

OneWheelLess, is the part number 1100813?

[OneWheelLess]

Yes, that is the right part #.