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Had a good session at the range with the CM9 with out any real issues with the pistol itself feeding or cycling rounds. The biggest problems were all associated with the Kahr magazines (rounds would point downward in the magazine rather than chambering. I never had this issue with any of my other pistols from Sig to Glock. Why can't they have better quality magazines or change the magazine design? I would pay an extra $10 per magazine if they worked and were reliable.
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FIRST U STATED U HAD no issues with the pistiol itslef feeding or cycling rounds. where is ur problem. ??? Is it hand racking and it not chambering or just that u don';t like the way it looks???? Not sure what sig ur talking about but glocks and sigs are mostly double stack, there is a difference. None have the patented offset feed ramp like ur kahr has, and I think this could be why the mag design works like it does. If ur kahr is not reliable then maybe it needs to go back. I am getting the sense that it is reliable... My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border
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Was this with a 6 or 7 round mag?Comment
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You did have problems feeding or didn't have problems?Comment
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LOL... you guys are too fast posting for me!Comment
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I have never had a problem with mine."America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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none of us here are trying to be assholes with these comments but if the gun is working Ok and one is criticising the magazine becuase it doesn't act like some other guns, it makes no sense. If one wants to compare his glock then compare it to a glock of the same model that is maybe doing things differently but to compare to another maker and another design,is not the same.
sounds to me like the gun is new even and just gertting some rounds through it even.. My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border
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He said... " The biggest problems were all associated with the Kahr magazines (rounds would point downward in the magazine rather than chambering."
That doesn't read to me like all was fine and he is complaining about a non-event. Clearly rounds were not chambering and he is placing the blame on the mag, which is understandable from all the posts here about issues with mags.
So how can we help with his getting nosedives?
- proper prep and lube to reduce slide friction.
- Mod the mag with the squeeze? I don't suggest the follower mod yet, although might be a good test for the spare Jimsea is willing to share.
- polish the ramp and chamber entrance.
- check the mag spring installation (not in backwards).
Did I miss anything?•"Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end." - O. L.
• "America's not at war; her military is. America's at the mall."
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Only mag issue I ever had was with floor-plate retainers on 9mm mags needing a bit of tweekage.Comment
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Had a good session at the range with the CM9 with out any real issues with the pistol itself feeding or cycling roundsOriginally posted by OldLincoln View Post
that was his beginning post, I realize the rounds pointing down thing but how do u take this beginning sentence. I take it that the gun functioned OK or why would u say no real issues with the pistol feeding or cycling rounds. Maybe just me but it is a confusing statement. I merely ask for clarification in my post... My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border
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I'm confused with his opening statement as well
Hopefully he'll come back and clarify?On the internet, the number of posts do not correlate to actual knowledge.
The notch is supposed to be there as well as the bulge at the front of the frame!
You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws.
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I really had no issues at all understandiong what was said. Evidently he had few nose dives caused by the mag jamming the round under the ramp..........a failure of the mag. If I was a betting man, I would say it was either round one or two.Originally posted by Dreamliner787 View Post
For the rounds that actually got delivered to the ramp there were no problems with the pistol."So Others May Live"
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Sorry for the confusion on my post. The functioning of the CM9 itself was very good, when rounds chambered the shot was very accurate at 10 yards. So the CM9 or gun itself is great shooting, the issue is the magazines. The problem was with the on both the standard magazine and expanded magazine of the 2nd or 3rd round would nose dive causing the mag to jam and not feed into the chamber. So this is why I stated that it's a magazine failure and not necessary with the CM9. Again sorry for confusion and I do like the CM9, I just never exprienced that type of nose dives with any of my other pistols before.Comment
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Let this old timer refresh the collective memory, and remind that the 9mm round is tapered, and it is impossible to not have some nose dip in the magazine because of that.
The Luger did it - and tried to get around it with a steep grip angle. Astra did it... P38 did it... fast forward... Smith and Wesson 39 did it.
Double stacks, don't do it, because of the fold in the magazine edges, that is designed to hold the top cartridges nose high, even though the lower ones go nose low.
The 40 and the 45 dont do this as much, because they are virtually untapered (very slight due to rim sizing... not much though)Comment
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