Regretting my CM9 purchase

[jocko]

being he is a new poster here and his description of TIGHT to ost all of us is just normal for a kahr. One has to mate up with any gun and kahrs are no different, U won't notice a tight gun when shooting it, so the tighness IMO has to come from maybe hand racking etc which no doubt is tight compared to alot of other gun makes. It will get better with more rounds, not knowing if he has read and reviewed the lube chart which is a real must IMO, this helps alot for smoothing out a gun, but certainly rounds down range will do better. He may have a tight kahr to so IMO he has to get used to the quirkie things that come from a tight gun. Just saying.

[Bronco302]

I've been shooting better than 40 years and have shot all kinds of simiautos. The first time I pulled the slide back on my CM I thought HOLY CRAP this can't be right. I had been reading on here so I cleaned her up, rubbed her down, greased her and run her wet and she has performed without a hitch.


Joe W.

[Barth]

I've been shooting better than 40 years and have shot all kinds of simiautos. The first time I pulled the slide back on my CM I thought HOLY CRAP this can't be right. I had been reading on here so I cleaned her up, rubbed her down, greased her and run her wet and she has performed without a hitch.


Joe W.

+1
I've been shooting for 30+ and own seven handguns.
My NIB MK40 was much tighter than anything I had experienced up to that point.
But with Militec-1 and 400 rounds of hot HP 40 Winchester Rangers?
That wild stallion broke in nicely.
Now she runs like the wind.

[jocko]

I have never shot any semi with as hard to hand rack as my kahrs. I could not for the life of jme hand rack my P380 at first reliaubly, just would ot work. Using the slide release it was perfect. today Ic an do both with ease. It has smoothed out,. I have gotten accustomed to its qurikrs and how to properly hand rack it, so all my kahrs now and I work great together. My wife can hand rack my g19 blidnfolded and my son also, but neither can hand rack my PM9 and it is smoother than a egg passing through a hen..(got that one from bawanna).

Now we can stand there and stomp our feet over this hard racking thing or we can just say fokk it I am gonna master this bastard and move on. Most choose the later..

[Thunder71]

Hand rack...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vLWP3-JhsA

[DKD]

You know JOCKO my man I beleive you are absolutley right. After hanging out on this forum for about two years now and currently own three Kahr pistols and I have come to a conclusion. These are specialty guns, tight as all get out and as small as modern machining would allow so the tolerances are very close. As such it would seem to me that these pistols just might be better suited to an experienced shooter and not the best choice for a new comer to handguns. I feel they are professional grade weapons. Now I am not sying that this is the case for all new shooter, but probbaly most would fall intto that cadegory. Just my observation & personal opinion from reading here and hands on experience.

[paperpuncher]

I've been shooting better than 40 years and have shot all kinds of simiautos. The first time I pulled the slide back on my CM I thought HOLY CRAP this can't be right. I had been reading on here so I cleaned her up, rubbed her down, greased her and run her wet and she has performed without a hitch.


Joe W.

My thoughts exactly. Throw in a bit of polymer shavings, and I was hesitant to shoot the gun for a little while, I thought I had a dog on my hands. But it's been just fine for 250 rounds now.

I also run it a tad sloppy, but will tone that down as the round count goes up.

[Barth]

I have never shot any semi with as hard to hand rack as my kahrs. I could not for the life of jme hand rack my P380 at first reliaubly, just would ot work. Using the slide release it was perfect. today Ic an do both with ease. It has smoothed out,. I have gotten accustomed to its qurikrs and how to properly hand rack it, so all my kahrs now and I work great together. My wife can hand rack my g19 blidnfolded and my son also, but neither can hand rack my PM9 and it is smoother than a egg passing through a hen..(got that one from bawanna).

Now we can stand there and stomp our feet over this hard racking thing or we can just say fokk it I am gonna master this bastard and move on. Most choose the later..

I really think the dual spring tension needed to have a three inch barrel and slide run reliably with hot 40 cal ammo is pretty extensiveness.
I can live with that.

[jocko]

yup that is cool

Hand rack...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vLWP3-JhsA

probably one out of 500 can do that with a kahr. Kinda reenforces the PROPER PROCEDURE technique to.

[jocko]

considering the PM9 and PM40 use the same exact recoil sprngs and it is nite and day between a 9m and a 40 cal thing. quite possably the kahr 9's could go down a few pounds in recoil spring poundage and be OK. Just sayin.

[JFootin]

Well, I got the Kahr because of the smooth, light trigger and no manual safeties or a hammer, just a pull of the trigger to get it into action. I can shoot this little gun pretty well, even with the snappy +p defense ammo. I have weakened, partially paralyzed hands, with my right hand being much worse than my left hand (but I'm a lefty ), so I have to put my gun in my right hand and rackit with my left hand, but I do it just fine and can clear a misfeed. I'm not lightening fast at it, but it is what it is. I'm not fast at doing anything...

Here comes Uncle Joe, he's a movin' kinda slow at the junction...

Like Jocko, I don't carry a spare mag much of the time, so my slowness at changing mags isn't going to come into play in a s.h.t.f. situation, and if 7 rounds shooting reliably out of my CM9 isn't enough, see ya on the other side! or I hope

[sharpenit]

Thanks to everybody for the suggestions and the encouragement. I will try your suggestions. I really want this to work, because I know others have great success with the PM9 and CM9. And it's a beautiful little machine.

Some wondered if I'm new to shooting, and I am. I got this CM9 just 10 days ago and a Springfield XD .45 about a month ago. The Springfield was so easy right out of the box that I was just flummoxed when the Kahr turned out to be so different.

I hope to get to the range this weekend to try out your suggestions. I'll report back afterward.

[jocko]

that xd45 is a bigger gun than ur cm9. there is a difference as u well know. take ur time, do all the prep stuff, the lube stuff and give it a good workout. document any issues , ammo, round count, etc.

[Thunder71]

Definitely different, I have an XDm and it's a dream to rack in comparison - much more tolerant of 'sloppy' skills, with the Kahr it can be all or nothing - at least for several hundred rounds.

[dean1818]

3 things can cause premature slide stop

! thumb hitting the release lever and u just don't know it. Try shooting it left handed to see if it persists.

2. bullets hitting on the inside of the slide stop lever and pre engaging the lever. refer to kahr tech section and propper prepping thread to see how to check this out. a 5 minutes thing to see. ( out of spec slide lock lever, a call to kahr willget a new one in the mail pronto)

3. slide stop lever spring is bent or out of spec, cause dby not putting the slide stop lever back correctly, there is a photo tutorial onve ron kahr tech section under propper preppng thread and also under the cw 45 fixes. again easily fixed, u tweeked it and maybe this will solve it

u just need to eliminate the posabilitys starting with # 1.

I just recieved mine back from Kahr with this exact issue.

The note said they replaced the barrel.

For some reason this fixed this issue as i have had 100 plus rounds with no repeat of the same problem