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    Picked up a 9093N the other day after debating for a while between that or a SigP238.

    Have to say I'm extremely happy. I put 220 rounds through it yesterday without any ftf"s and I used various brand rounds. It was extremely accurate and had less of a kick that what I would of expected for that size pistol.

    I traded in a Glock26 that I feel is still a great gun but just a bit to chunky for myself when it came to everyday carry.

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    You`ll find a lot of kindred spirits here.I love my G19 but for concealability,it`s hard to beat a PM9.Just a sweetheart of a handgun.
    In the area in which I now reside,when I`m placed in a group of four or five guys,I`m known as "the smart one".God help me.

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    • #3
      I came to the same conclusion - there are many good choices in double stack pistols, but you give up a good measure of concealability for the extra rounds. For me the PM9 conceals IWB near invisibly, and does well in a pocket too. I still love my LCP as it is my first CCW, and it's even more invisible, but now I have choices in small but powerful defensive arms.

      The PM9 is a near perfect blend of size, power, concealability, reliability, and is just plain appealing like a fine gold watch.

      best of luck

      unclenunzie
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      • #4
        Congratulations and welcome to the forum.

        Yes, the PM9 is a gem, great shooter for it's size, easy to conceal and most of us find that they are perfect right out of the box

        I have an M&P 9c which I still carry, often, primarily because it's winter and I can easily conceal it and it's also a excellent pistol, but come summertime my PM9 will be my constant companion.
        - Kahr PM9
        - M&P 9 FS, 9c, Shield
        - Dan Wesson 1911 Commander Bobtail .45
        - S&W .38
        To name a few

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        • #5
          Welcome and Good Choice.
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          A Conceal Carry Handgun Must Meet Four Conditions:
          1) It must be utterly reliable.
          2) It should be compact enough to be carried concealed for long periods of time.
          3) It should have a very simple operating drill.
          4) It should fire a cartridge of sufficient power.

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          • #6
            Happy with my PM 9

            Picked up my PM9 18 months ago as a light weight summer alternative to the Kimber Pro 2 I usually carry. After combining the PM9 with Kahrs excellent belly band I'm hooked. Still enjoy the Kimber at the range but it's joined my many other full size autos as another range queen. Reliability has been perfect and Speer Gold Dot JHP 115's print within 2" at 10 yards. Best blend of concealment and firepower I've ever owned, and it's just big enough to shoot quickly. No more feeling like Will Smith with the Noisy Cricket from MIB. Sorry .380 lovers...

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            • #7
              I chose the P238 as my main carry/pocket gun and love it! But I recently picked up the slightly larger CW9 as a second carry gun and have really been enjoying it as well.

              If the PM9 was just a little thinner through the slide I probably would have it in my pocket instead of the 238. It was just a little too thick for me. I realize that by choosing the 238 I made a big compromise in power when compared to the PM9 yet on the other hand I can accurately shoot followups with the P238 much faster than the CW9.

              I think the PM9 definitely gets the nod in regards to reliability as well. There seem to be a lot more problem P238's reported than problem PM9's. I still might end up with a PM9--it's a very tempting little package, as is the P380! And my CW9 has been 100% reliable so far with close to 300 rounds through it.

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              • #8
                Imo

                Originally posted by jwr View Post
                I chose the P238 as my main carry/pocket gun and love it! But I recently picked up the slightly larger CW9 as a second carry gun and have really been enjoying it as well.

                If the PM9 was just a little thinner through the slide I probably would have it in my pocket instead of the 238. It was just a little too thick for me. I realize that by choosing the 238 I made a big compromise in power when compared to the PM9 yet on the other hand I can accurately shoot follow ups with the P238 much faster than the CW9.

                I think the PM9 definitely gets the nod in regards to reliability as well. There seem to be a lot more problem P238's reported than problem PM9's. I still might end up with a PM9--it's a very tempting little package, as is the P380! And my CW9 has been 100% reliable so far with close to 300 rounds through it.
                you gave up alot going to the 380 over the 9mm. not alot of difference in size of the sig 380 and the PM9, some sure but both will ride in ones pocket with ease. I have carried my PM9 in jeans for the last 3.5 years and have zero issues with it. have a lcp and a kahr P380 sitting at home. Love um both, just can't seem to grab it when I can carry my PM9 99% of the places I go. the 380 is nice but they don't come up to the 9mm in any way. Follow ups with the P238 sig should be better for sure, as u are in single action mode, but for pocket carry it has to be carried in hammer down safety mode. Waist band is a different carry mode for sure, but to me if one is going to waste band carry then there are oddles of 9mm out there that will over ride any waist band carried 380, my 2 cents YMMV.
                . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jocko View Post
                  ... but for pocket carry it has to be carried in hammer down safety mode.
                  Yeah, I did give up some things going with the 238 over the PM9 but speed was not one of them. I carry cocked & locked in a good pocket holster--just like the pistol was designed for. The holster covers the safety,

                  The 238 is *not* designed to safely carry with hammer down on a live round. There is no decocker so you have to disengage the safety and pull the trigger and ease the hammer down on that live round. Something most of us have learned to do but not something I'm wiliing to do in the house every evening when I check my gun.

                  Both are great pistols--I just chose the smaller of the two.

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                  • #10
                    wow

                    Originally posted by jwr View Post
                    Yeah, I did give up some things going with the 238 over the PM9 but speed was not one of them. I carry cocked & locked in a good pocket holster--just like the pistol was designed for. The holster covers the safety,

                    The 238 is *not* designed to safely carry with hammer down on a live round. There is no decocker so you have to disengage the safety and pull the trigger and ease the hammer down on that live round. Something most of us have learned to do but not something I'm wiliing to do in the house every evening when I check my gun.

                    Both are great pistols--I just chose the smaller of the two.
                    cocked and locked in a pocket gun:75:
                    . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                    • #11
                      I had a Sig 238 and sold it because I was not comfortable carrying it cocked and locked in pocket. Great gun just not for me.:40:
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jeepster09 View Post
                        I had a Sig 238 and sold it because I was not comfortable carrying it cocked and locked in pocket. Great gun just not for me.:40:
                        My thoughts exactly... and people got upset with me glancing down the barrel of my loaded pistol without a finger near the trigger!
                        There's always the chance of your pocket becoming an accidental shooting site... too close to one of the more prized parts of my anatomy.
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                        • #13
                          Now you've done it....the 1911 gang will start coming out of the woodwork to flame you....Wonder what they are going to do next year on the 100th birthday???? I'm thinking a monument on the mall in Washington maybe!!!
                          " An armed society is a polite society".... Robert A. Heinlein

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                          • #14
                            I'm having deja vu. Checkout this thread starting at about post #12 or 13 http://kahrtalk.com/ccw-tactics-trai...kahr-long.html

                            No flames, but with cocked and locked in pocket:
                            1. trigger is covered by holster
                            2. safety is covered by holster
                            3. to fire gun safety must be disengaged and
                            4. trigger must be pulled

                            PM9 in pocket
                            1. trigger is covered by holster
                            2. to fire gun pull trigger


                            I know SA is scary to some folks but so was the thought of carrying a double-action pistol with no manual safety back in the day. We seem to have gotten over that hurdle.

                            If for some reason the safety on a SA gets disengaged the *covered* trigger still has to be pulled.

                            (And given the choice of looking down the barrel of a loaded pistol or carrying by the time-proven method of cocked & locked, I choose cocked and locked )

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                            • #15
                              I've looked at the 238 -- cute little pistol. However, I worried about the beaver-tail in a pocket and potential snags trying to draw. It's also not that much smaller than a PM9 (certainly no where near as small as a P3AT), so the PM9 was a better choice for me.

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