New Member - PM45 failure to feed

[Bawanna]

kramm-

No, it just has the normal sights. Yep, it sounds like a good price. That is actually less than I paid for my silver-slide PM45.

Lane

I say jump on it, or maybe we should vote? Tell the missus we said it was ok. We can always pound some XS sights on it later. Pictures when you pick it up. Congrats on the new gun.

[astrorat]

I was excited to get to the range to give the black PM45 a try. I rented the pistol and shot about 40 rounds through it. Well...perhaps it's a break-in issue (as I am not sure how many rounds had been through it) or something more.

During the test I had 2 failures to feed and 1 slide lock back prematurely. Since I already have a PM45 that does that...I passed on this one...even at the great price.

I wish the PM45s were as reliable as my PM9...never an issue with feeding or anything else.

As an aside...I also shot a new Colt 1911 A1...wow...what a nice pistol.

My silver PM45 is in the capable hands of Kahr and hopefully the problem will be fixed and back to me soon.

Lane

[Bawanna]

I was excited to get to the range to give the black PM45 a try. I rented the pistol and shot about 40 rounds through it. Well...perhaps it's a break-in issue (as I am not sure how many rounds had been through it) or something more.

During the test I had 2 failures to feed and 1 slide lock back prematurely. Since I already have a PM45 that does that...I passed on this one...even at the great price.

I wish the PM45s were as reliable as my PM9...never an issue with feeding or anything else.

As an aside...I also shot a new Colt 1911 A1...wow...what a nice pistol.

My silver PM45 is in the capable hands of Kahr and hopefully the problem will be fixed and back to me soon.

Lane

You just gotta love a nice 1911. If it says Colt on it, it's just that much better.

[astrorat]

Call from Kahr

I received a voicemail from Kahr last week. Looks like they had to replace the receiver to fix the "stripped" spring retention screw threads.

Now I need to have it shipped to my FFL dealer. Since my dealer will charge me $30 for the transfer, does anybody know if that fee is something that Kahr will pick up? They have been kind enough to pay for the shipping for the repairs for the warranty work.

Lane

[at_liberty]

I received a voicemail from Kahr last week. Looks like they had to replace the receiver to fix the "stripped" spring retention screw threads.

Now I need to have it shipped to my FFL dealer. Since my dealer will charge me $30 for the transfer, does anybody know if that fee is something that Kahr will pick up? They have been kind enough to pay for the shipping for the repairs for the warranty work.

Lane

When I returned a gun through a shop from whom I had purchased two other guns, I was not charged an FFL fee to get the gun back. If I had returned one of the guns I actually bought from that dealer, I would not expect to pay a fee. On a recent inquiry, I asked about that, and was told that no, there would be no fee, only shipping charges. Note that gun shipments are overnight at premium rates. Be ready for that so not unhappy about an expensive surprise. Ask ahead of time, making no assumptions. It just shouldn't be a big deal if returned through the source who sold you the gun. If they are handling someone else's gun, you should appreciate that charging the fee is fair and appropriate.

[astrorat]

Thanks. That makes sense. I just am not aware as to what is customary for firearms. Kahr has been GREAT about paying for shipping both ways for the two times the gun has had to be returned for repairs. The only hassle has been the inconvenience of packaging it up and sending it and, of course, being without that great little pistol!

Lane

[astrorat]

It's back...sort of...

Kahr sent back the pistol with a new receiver. Fortunately, my local club was kind enough not to charge for the FFL transfer.

It's out to the range today to see how it works.

Lane

[In-Yo-Grill]

I hope it works out well for you today. Is that all they said they did this go around?

[astrorat]

The technical Service Work Sheet states:

Action Taken:
REPLACED FRAME WITH NEW S/N xxxxxx. LUBED TEST FIRED GOOD.

Lane

[astrorat]

Range Report

I put 100 rounds through the "new" PM45. Three times in the first 50 or so rounds the slide locked open prematurely. No problems in the last 50 or rounds.

Could this be due to the "break in" of the new receiver?

Lane

[Bawanna]

I put 100 rounds through the "new" PM45. Three times in the first 50 or so rounds the slide locked open prematurely. No problems in the last 50 or rounds.

Could this be due to the "break in" of the new receiver?

Lane

I would say no, your either hitting the slide lock lever with your thumb (quite common) or the slide lock spring is out of whack. There's a thread here somewhere on checking to make sure the rounds arent' hitting that spring. I'd say 3 in the first 50 and none after maybe it's gonna work itself out. Try shooting left handed or have someone else shoot it and confirm it's not your thumb thats out of spec.

[jocko]

I think Bawanna hit it right. My bet your thumb was hitting the slide lock lever, very common, let another person shoot it, or indeed golefty and test out, or better yet be very very aware of where that thumb is, Ur not the first to have this happen. Very few things can cause the slide to lock open but the ol thumb trick is certainly one of them...

eliminate the "possables" and then u can tell if you have an issue. If you go to the kahr tech section and hit on thePROPER PREPPING OF YOUR NEW KAHR. It will give you some things to look for to. Kepe us posted but I do think you OK as Bawanna stated also. That man knows his sh-it, !! He doesnt know guns but he does know sh-it!!!!!

[gearguy]

I had similar problems with my PM45. Sent it to Kahr, they turned it around. Back to the range. Same problem: FTF, FTE. Also, never had success with either the PM45 or my PM9 using the +1 configuration. I don't think they should sell these guns as +1 capacity.

[wyntrout]

Gearguy, I guess you've looked to see if you have the notch and the gap/or beveled stripper. Either can give you problems like that. We've talked about and posted a lot of pictures covering those particular problems under Notch and or Gap... the bevel of the stripper.
Wynn

[WinstonRomeo]

I had those issues as well and found that my PM45 does not like some brands of ammo: Win. XTP 230 grain hp for one, but the rest of the times it was my grip. This great little gun likes a firm grip all the time. That will not be a problem in a deadly force encounter, but on the range with extended shooting sessions it can be. Mine shoots better than I can hold it as well, but I am a bit more accurate with it than my P45.