why are Kahrs so expensive?

[jocko]

no harm no foul, unless ur Bawanna... I can take it.

can't believe ur friends with glock owners, that is almost like me being friends with honder owners. Just ain't gonna ever happen.

[Tinman507]

[Haven]

Kahr is located in Massachusetts. It cost more to do anything is this dang state. I still find it hard to believe they are located in such a unfriendly gun state.

[QuercusMax]

Kahr is located in Massachusetts. It cost more to do anything is this dang state. I still find it hard to believe they are located in such a unfriendly gun state.

History and inertia are hard forces to overcome.

They can't just up and move to Idaho. Or some other state.

But it does make you wonder what it will take to move the traditional gun center of America to some place that truly is more friendly to their product.

[JERRY]

Once you break off the glock front sight to replace it with nites it uses a small socket head to screw on the new one....easy peasy.

[kerby9mm]

What are the drawbacks to dovetail sights. Just curious. All my guns are dovetailed so I don't know any better.

[jocko]

not defending the pinned sights but IMO pin sight is very neat on the front of the slide. No slots needed.

[CJB]

The secret to driving out the dovetail sights, is SECURE mounting of the slide in a strong heavy vice, using a proper brass punch with non-rounded edges, and using the correct size hammer. Too big, you don't get the energy. Too small, you don't get the energy. You need a hammer that is fairly light, but ample. Quick taps work best, no sledge whacks.

[Russ]

Kahr made a strategic move when they released the CM9 priced in the $300 range. Kahr for the longest time could command $600 for a 9mm CCW because there was no competition but those days are gone.

S&W Shield retails for $449 and some are picking them up in the high $300. You don't have to love the Shield but S&W and other big names jumping into the CCW market forced Kahr to make a few minor changes to a $600 gun and rename it CM9 and drop the price 40%.

Isn't competition great!

Without it you would be paying $600 for a 9mm to ride in your pocket.

Russ

[chrish]

Kahr made a strategic move when they released the CM9 priced in the $300 range. Kahr for the longest time could command $600 for a 9mm CCW because there was no competition but those days are gone.

S&W Shield retails for $449 and some are picking them up in the high $300. You don't have to love the Shield but S&W and other big names jumping into the CCW market forced Kahr to make a few minor changes to a $600 gun and rename it CM9 and drop the price 40%.

Isn't competition great!

Without it you would be paying $600 for a 9mm to ride in your pocket.

Russ

An excellent point, but then again, I paid $600 x2 to have 2 9mm (P9/TP9) that won't fit in my pocket and have to go on my belt just like a $300 9mm.

[Russ]

CM Models Will Be The Future For Kahr

An excellent point, but then again, I paid $600 x2 to have 2 9mm (P9/TP9) that won't fit in my pocket and have to go on my belt just like a $300 9mm.

chrish:

CM models in all calibers in my opinion will be the future for Kahr in the CCW market.

The market has spoken and the price point for high quality and reliable ccws is now $300 - $400 range. (Sorry PM owners $600 is history for poly guns)

I am sure you have some fine weapons in the P9 and TP9 but in my honest opinion the ccw market has changed with major gun manufactures jumping in with $300 - $400 reliable poly pocket ccw guns. (Yes, I pocket my Shield in Dockers 10 hours per day.)

Fortunately for Kahr they were smart enough to see the writing on the wall soon enough to launch the CM9 otherwise in my opinion Kahr would have been left out in the cold.

Russ

[joshh]

chrish:

CM models in all calibers in my opinion will be the future for Kahr in the CCW market.

The market has spoken and the price point for high quality and reliable ccws is now $300 - $400 range. (Sorry PM owners $600 is history for poly guns)

I am sure you have some fine weapons in the P9 and TP9 but in my honest opinion the ccw market has changed with major gun manufactures jumping in with $300 - $400 reliable poly pocket ccw guns. (Yes, I pocket my Shield in Dockers 10 hours per day.)

Fortunately for Kahr they were smart enough to see the writing on the wall soon enough to launch the CM9 otherwise in my opinion Kahr would have been left out in the cold.

Russ

Agree 100%. most people dont want to spend (in my case) over $700 on a pistol that isnt a collectible or competition. The shield is $399 to $450 around here and they are sold out everywhere. Also, here in MA you cant buy a CW9 (not allowed because of the Dems) and since the shield came out my local says they havent sold a single PM9. i am looking to buy the wife something soon and a cw9 or maybe a 380 would be great but i am prob gonna end up getting her a shield or more likely a bodyguard. we are limited to what we can get up here because we let our politicians get too powerful...

[jocko]

no doubt more can affored $400 o0ver $600, but there are alot of people who will look right past the cw ad cm series and go for the "gusto". I am sure kahr knows the P and PM series would suffer in sales with the intro of the cw an cm series, probably a good trade off though. The cm an cw is a fine gun. No excuses need be made for them either..

[chrish]

chrish:

CM models in all calibers in my opinion will be the future for Kahr in the CCW market.

The market has spoken and the price point for high quality and reliable ccws is now $300 - $400 range. (Sorry PM owners $600 is history for poly guns)

I am sure you have some fine weapons in the P9 and TP9 but in my honest opinion the ccw market has changed with major gun manufactures jumping in with $300 - $400 reliable poly pocket ccw guns. (Yes, I pocket my Shield in Dockers 10 hours per day.)

Fortunately for Kahr they were smart enough to see the writing on the wall soon enough to launch the CM9 otherwise in my opinion Kahr would have been left out in the cold.

Russ

Yea, I'm agreeing w/ your original post (and this one too). Not defending (or blasting) the $600 price of the TP/P/PM series. I was joking that it doesn't much matter where you carry it (pocket or belt), that it's still a pricey $600+ 9mm.

I completely agree that for a daily carry, ccw pistol, that the $300-$400 price range is MUCH better for the intended purpose/market here. The CW/CM models had not come out yet when I picked up my PM9 and P9 back awhile. They might have been just hitting the market when I got the P9, I forget. But it wasn't an option at the time for me. I'd be giving STRONG consideration to a CW9 today if I were shopping. They are exceptional pistols at (IMO) a great price. Many more folks are going to consider one over the more expensive sibling, as they should.

Side note, there is unfortunately no C equivalent to the T series stuff...so that was my only option there. I just picked up the TP earlier this year.

[sierrajb]

Where?

At $350 range, they are pretty damn cheap... CM and CW are good deals.

So, I can find a Kahr 45 for $350? Where?