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    Brand new pistol will not fire

    I purchased a pm9 two days ago and finally had a chance to take it to the range today. This is a brand new pistol and would not fire with any ammo. Every pull of the trigger resulted in no bang. The staff at the store inspected the gun and couldn't readily find the problem so they have shipped to Worcester to be repaired by Kahr. My question is, can I expect this "lemon" to ever be reliable even if repaired?

    I hope Kahr will make this right for me because otherwise I am losing money if I have to sell it back to my dealer and peace of mind if I am stuck with a gun that was this detrimentally unreliable straight out of the box.
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    if they field stripped the gun and ensured the firing pin/striker moved properly and protruded properly I don't know what it could be.


    what did the gunshop tell you?
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    • #3
      Nothing to worry about. Kahr will take care of it. Start over, shoot it a bunch and the reliability and trust will be there.

      We got nothing to help diagnose it. Apparently no strike from the striker, so it was short or broken or not installed correctly at the factory.

      Just a wild guess.
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      • #4
        Sure. They'll fix it and it will be fine.

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        • #5
          For sure Kahr will take care of it. I had an issue with slide stick back over a year ago. Kahr paid for shipping and I had it back in three weeks. Flawless since. My EDC for the most part. No worry needed IMHO.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bawanna View Post
            Nothing to worry about. Kahr will take care of it. Start over, shoot it a bunch and the reliability and trust will be there.

            We got nothing to help diagnose it. Apparently no strike from the striker, so it was short or broken or not installed correctly at the factory.

            Just a wild guess.

            Or even missing! Or the striker block hanging up! or a bad cocking cam not releasing the striker block!

            It's a mechanical machine with definable mechanisms. Something is at the cause and they will find it and fix it. None of it is voodoo or magic. When it is fixed, it will work, and you can trust it without hesitation.

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            • #7
              Did you or the gun shop disassemble, clean, and lube the gun before you fired it as you were instructed to do in the owners manual? Whether you did, or didn't, therein probably lies the problem. If it wasn't cleaned and lubed, shame on you or the LGS. If it was cleaned and lubed, but not properly reassembled shame again. If the gun was damaged between the time it left the factory and when you bought it Kahr will make it right at no cost to you. The gun went bang before it left the factory or it wouldn't have left. Kahr stands behind its products.
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              • #8
                Obviously this will get fixed, so no need to worry. However, I can't imagine pulling a gun like this out of the box and shooting it before it gets cleaned up and properly lubed. Many new guns are gunked with junk and need to be cleaned up properly before first use, or you can expect problems. I would hope your dealer did this as Muggsy suggested and if not, hopefully it is a lesson learned. Just sayin. Best of luck with it when it returns.
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                • #9
                  All will be OK.

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                  • #10
                    I'm sorry for the possibly very dumb question, but you just never know... Did you chamber a round before pulling the trigger?

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the reassurance guys. It just makes me nervous that there could be more things wrong with the gun than I know about and that it could be a compounding issue.

                      To answer some questions, yes the gun was properly cleaned, lubed and reassembled as expressly instructed in the owners manual. And yes, I chambered a round before I attempted to shoot the gun....lol. I am not an expert but I am guessing that there is something wrong with the trigger system or striker. When I would dry fire the pistol there was a delay in the click from when I pulled the trigger all the way back...perhaps a second or two. However, there was no click or bang when a round was chambered, the trigger felt dead.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by zamboni View Post
                        I'm sorry for the possibly very dumb question, but you just never know... Did you chamber a round before pulling the trigger?

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                        • #13
                          As big a pain as it seems to be, send it in. Kahr will go over the entire gun and you will forget about this issue a few minutes after you come back from your first range outing.
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                          • #14
                            You new gun came with a spent cartridge case. That cartridge was fired from your gun, so it worked when it left the factory. It will work again when it comes back from the factory. That you can count on. Let us know what the service department does to correct the problem.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 340pd View Post
                              As big a pain as it seems to be, send it in. Kahr will go over the entire gun and you will forget about this issue a few minutes after you come back from your first range outing.
                              No you won't, it will linger in the back of your mind. You will wonder if it's going to happen when you need your pistol the most.

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