Another holster thread

[berettabone]

You are violating one of the gun safety rules by relying upon a mechanical device if that holster fails. Your holster is not up to the task of defensive carry; it is for range use at best. You are responsible for every bullet that gun fires and negligent discharges have occurred with that type of holster. Relying upon a safety mechanism is NOT good practice. All fifty years of experience means is that you should know better. A rational man would review my comment within its context, objectively evaluate the gear in question and make an assessment of the situation in light of the safety rule. Instead, you immediately went on the attack with an emotionally based rant and personal attack.

I'm not violating any rules, I'm violating your rules. I also own other types of holsters, in other materials, without mechanical devices. They aren't any better or worse because of it. Relying on a holster in general, is violating rules. Unless it's in your hand, or in a safe, they can all fail. I have never and I mean never had a negligent discharge of a firearm. That tells me that I do know better, and to have an on the couch quarterback tell me their rules for carry is absolutely ludicrous. Negligence has happened with every and any type holster. A rational man would review your comments and say " another one full of manure". Maybe next time, you could enlighten everyone on how you carry, and why you think that it's the best thing since white bread. I will continue to safely carry all of my firearms, without any mishaps, just like always. If I should happen to die, because of how I carry, you can tell everyone, I told you so. Until then, keep watching those vids, reading those books, listening to the so called experts( there's a million of them) and carrying how you like. I don't take much out of comments like yours. I've seen a million of them.............................................. .................................................. ....

[Cokeman]

Alright, you guys are done. Let's give it a rest.

[root]

Got a custom OC holster made for my CM9. I can OC in my state but CC when in public, this is great for around the house or when I have a coat on that covers it.





IWB is a Shepherd Holster. Made in the USA. Pretty standard leather holster with kydex shell. It's comfortable and does the job.

[tomrkba]

I'm not violating any rules, I'm violating your rules. I also own other types of holsters, in other materials, without mechanical devices. They aren't any better or worse because of it. Relying on a holster in general, is violating rules. Unless it's in your hand, or in a safe, they can all fail. I have never and I mean never had a negligent discharge of a firearm. That tells me that I do know better, and to have an on the couch quarterback tell me their rules for carry is absolutely ludicrous. Negligence has happened with every and any type holster. A rational man would review your comments and say " another one full of manure". Maybe next time, you could enlighten everyone on how you carry, and why you think that it's the best thing since white bread. I will continue to safely carry all of my firearms, without any mishaps, just like always. If I should happen to die, because of how I carry, you can tell everyone, I told you so. Until then, keep watching those vids, reading those books, listening to the so called experts( there's a million of them) and carrying how you like. I don't take much out of comments like yours. I've seen a million of them.............................................. .................................................. ....

Personal attacks, which you engaged in frquently, indicate your points cannot win on their merits. My original post was created in good faith that this was an honest conversation. You could not emotionally handle someone not approving of your holster and/or method and attacked immediately.

The qualities of a good carry holster are well known and published. Proper holster selection for carry is critical and men such as Mas Ayoob, Clint Smith and others who are paid to know such things tell us this frequently. I listen to them because they have the experience and exposure. They see many students annually and know what works and why. If you cannot see why your holster can be a problem, you should attend training to learn why.

Fifty years of experience is useless if one does not know the rules of gun safety (which you indicate in the first sentence of your last reply). The NRA abstracted out the common elements into three minimal rules, but the complete set contains ten. "The 10 Commandments of Gun Safety", in particular Rule #3, are:

1. Always Keep The Muzzle Pointed In A Safe Direction

2. Firearms Should Be Unloaded When Not Actually In Use

3. Don't Rely On Your Gun's "Safety"

4. Be Sure Of Your Target And What's Beyond It

5. Use Correct Ammunition

6. If Your Gun Fails To Fire When The Trigger Is Pulled, Handle With Care!

7. Always Wear Eye And Ear Protection When Shooting

8. Be Sure The Barrel Is Clear Of Obstructions Before Shooting

9. Don't Alter Or Modify Your Gun, And Have Guns Serviced Regularly

10. Learn The Mechanical And Handling Characteristics Of The Firearm You Are Using


Citation:

http://www.nssf.org/safety/basics/
http://www.remington.com/10commandments

[tomrkba]

Alright, you guys are done. Let's give it a rest.

Agreed Cokeman. I have added berettabone to my ignore list and will not see his posts.

[berettabone]

Agreed Cokeman. I have added berettabone to my ignore list and will not see his posts.

I have accomplished my goal.............................................. ........Cokeman, who the hell are you??????????????????? Stay away from the lines...................................another troll reading books..................

[berettabone]

Personal attacks, which you engaged in frquently, indicate your points cannot win on their merits. My original post was created in good faith that this was an honest conversation. You could not emotionally handle someone not approving of your holster and/or method and attacked immediately.

The qualities of a good carry holster are well known and published. Proper holster selection for carry is critical and men such as Mas Ayoob, Clint Smith and others who are paid to know such things tell us this frequently. I listen to them because they have the experience and exposure. They see many students annually and know what works and why. If you cannot see why your holster can be a problem, you should attend training to learn why.

Fifty years of experience is useless if one does not know the rules of gun safety (which you indicate in the first sentence of your last reply). The NRA abstracted out the common elements into three minimal rules, but the complete set contains ten. "The 10 Commandments of Gun Safety", in particular Rule #3, are:

1. Always Keep The Muzzle Pointed In A Safe Direction

2. Firearms Should Be Unloaded When Not Actually In Use

3. Don't Rely On Your Gun's "Safety"

4. Be Sure Of Your Target And What's Beyond It

5. Use Correct Ammunition

6. If Your Gun Fails To Fire When The Trigger Is Pulled, Handle With Care!

7. Always Wear Eye And Ear Protection When Shooting

8. Be Sure The Barrel Is Clear Of Obstructions Before Shooting

9. Don't Alter Or Modify Your Gun, And Have Guns Serviced Regularly

10. Learn The Mechanical And Handling Characteristics Of The Firearm You Are Using


Citation:

http://www.nssf.org/safety/basics/
http://www.remington.com/10commandments

I'm sure glad you showed me these things...........................I don't know how I've made it so long without this valuable information that I never knew, or never had seen before. Where do you get this info???????????Relative of our Potus?????????????????

[Rob K]

Try Cooks Holsters website. Fast service, holster is customized to your wants and beautifully made with great molding.

[Paulgl26]

I have a pj holster but find myself using my comp-tac ctac more often then the PJ. I like the 2 clip (c clip) and it hides realy good

[johnh]

Here is a more up to date link to the post cited above on Gun Safety tips:

John Hawthorne - Twelve Critical Gun Safety Rules You Can't Ignore

Many thanks to the author for permission to re-post here!

[bugs]

if at all possible hold out for PJs; I've got two and VERY happy with both and Paul will do his best to ensure your satisfied with his holsters.

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