Mag won't drop...Kahr let me down

[jocko]

well said copterdrivr, well said.

[sliponby]

Some concealed carriers don't carry a spare mag. Thus, the mag not dropping or ejecting cleanly without assistance may not be an issue. We're all different in our requirements.

I imagine if you asked Massad Ayoob if he would tolerate a self defense carry gun that would not freely drop an empty mag to facilitate a fast and clean reload, he would emphatically state "NO!" Well, I'm in that camp and so is my instructor. And, by the way, how can anyone tell a marginally safe area from a very unsafe area? Yall must have some ESP going that I don't have...

[jocko]

If a pole was taken and I am sure it has been somewhere to. but I bet the biggest % of carriers don't carry a spare magazine with them. It might be an issue for some who carry a spare magazine but just not to sure how much slower one thinks it is over one jumping out of the gun. Most gunfights end under 6 rounds to.

[MattTheKnife]

The mags in my CW9 don't reliable drop 100% of the time either. I've tried buffing the mag and the inside of the mag well.

That, and the fact I need to use the slide stop to consistently chamber a new round from a fresh magazine (despite years of training to the contrary), haven't stopped me from carrying my Kahr; but I am looking at other designs.

[jfrey]

When I got a CW9 my mags wouldn't drop out either. After conferring with Ian (the original) and Jocko on this forum, I sent it back with a note describing what it was doing and what I wanted it to do. On return it shot the mags out like a 1911. Somehow they polished the inside of the mag well and it worked. Jocko pointed out that the manual describes how to pull the mag out but they can fix it so they shoot out the way some of us want them to. There isn't anything wrong either way, just depends on what you personally want.

[jgedmond]

If a pole was taken and I am sure it has been somewhere to. but I bet the biggest % of carriers don't carry a spare magazine with them. It might be an issue for some who carry a spare magazine but just not to sure how much slower one thinks it is over one jumping out of the gun. Most gunfights end under 6 rounds to.

1 is none, 2 is 1 - now where did I hear that?

[dukeguy]

Seems to be a mag issue for me. I have one 6 rd. mag that drops freely and another 6 rd. mag that only pops out about 1/2 inch. I just make sure I load the one that drops freely and use the other one for backup.

[n8tureboy]

Just one more reason to carry a revolver for self-defense!!! Damn, did I just say that???

[jocko]

I think your

Seems to be a mag issue for me. I have one 6 rd. mag that drops freely and another 6 rd. mag that only pops out about 1/2 inch. I just make sure I load the one that drops freely and use the other one for backup.

dead right in what you stated. My G19, two identical magazines. One drops freely, One will not. Some of the kahr guys here have polished the outside of the magazines, smoother the mag cutout wher ethe mag release button goes, some have actually gnetly pushed in the sidewalls of the magazine and good results have come from those mods. Just go slowly if you try some of this stuff. Personally the last thing I would do is releave the inside of the polymer mag well, for once gone, it can never be given back.

[copterdrvr]

Nope, not ESP but historical perspective. The places my wife and I do our shopping in our town have no history of shootings, stabbings, rapes, etc. and because we've lived here for almost 15 years, we're pretty comfortable when going to our "usual" haunts. I'm always looking for the "target of opportunity" type criminal as that's about the worst that we can be expected to encounter.

There are areas of our town that I wouldn't DRIVE through in a HumVee even if I was packin' my high-cap mag 40 SW and my Remington 1100 extended mag home defense gun and one of my old chicken plates. Why? Because from a historical perspective, alotta people end up getting capped there for little or nothing.

I don't stop ANYWHERE after dark to get gas or some other sundries. Heck, we refer to those quickstop stores as "stop and robs"! With alittle planning we can do a pretty decent job of improving our odds of not having to make the "ultimate decision" to use deadly force. I mean really, think of all the paperwork!!!!

I will admit however that the gun that lives in my truck is a 13 round 9mm but that's cool-I don't have to carry it!

[arizona98tj]

Nope, not ESP but historical perspective......

Historically speaking, very few people accidentally set themselves on fire and die as a result. I'm confident very few people would argue that statement.

Imagine my wife's horror as she drives home one evening, around 9:00 PM, and see's our neighbor lady burning in her garage. My wife did her best to extinguish the flames as quickly possible. Our neighbor died later that night in the hospital.

The only problem with betting against the odds is that you can't control the outcome.....historically speaking that is.

[frank_drebin]

Nope, not ESP but historical perspective. The places my wife and I do our shopping in our town have no history of shootings, stabbings, rapes, etc. and because we've lived here for almost 15 years, we're pretty comfortable when going to our "usual" haunts. I'm always looking for the "target of opportunity" type criminal as that's about the worst that we can be expected to encounter.

There are areas of our town that I wouldn't DRIVE through in a HumVee even if I was packin' my high-cap mag 40 SW and my Remington 1100 extended mag home defense gun and one of my old chicken plates. Why? Because from a historical perspective, alotta people end up getting capped there for little or nothing.

I don't stop ANYWHERE after dark to get gas or some other sundries. Heck, we refer to those quickstop stores as "stop and robs"! With alittle planning we can do a pretty decent job of improving our odds of not having to make the "ultimate decision" to use deadly force. I mean really, think of all the paperwork!!!!

I will admit however that the gun that lives in my truck is a 13 round 9mm but that's cool-I don't have to carry it!

I understand what you are saying and each person has to take inventory of their personal needs vs their daily comfort level. Each person has their own "bare minimum" There are people that scoff at anyone that would carry a .380 yet find it absurd that anyone would carry a spare magazine. Many would fault the person that does not carry a spare mag as being ill prepared yet they find people who carry a backup firearm to be paranoid delusionals. Some make the argument that you need a primary, hi-capacity handgun, two spare mags, a BUG on the ankle and a carbine in the car at all times. We all know these people are loons

[joshh]

its definately a mag issue because my pm9 drops my 6 round mag but not the 7. my friends new pm9 does the exact opposite. his 7 round mag drops free in both mine & his but his 6rd only drops 1/2 inch in both. so this is a magazine issue, but any fixes out there?

[sliponby]

Back from Kahr. Happy now.

The 2nd trip to Kahr (their dime both ways this time) seems to have solved my mag sticking issues. I ran 100 rounds of Rem. UMC using all 5 mags, 3 six round and 2 seven, and all mags are dropping freely.

The "Technical Service Work Sheet" action taken states: "Inspected gun. Polished mag well. Lubed. Test fired good." I do notice that the 4 raised lines, 2 on each side of mag well, have had some material removed. They do not seem to be as prominent as they were before.

As far as I'm concerned, problem solved and Kahr's service, although requiring a 2nd trip, performed to my satisfaction.

[Atilla]

OMG the more I read about Kahr CS the more I want to puke.