Competition for the Kahr PM 9?

[MikeyKahr]

Definition of "flush"

The PM9 has a flush plate on the six rounder.

Hey O'Dell, there's flush....and then there's flush. My PM9 six-round mags are "flush" but that said, they still stick out a good 1/8-1/4" from the bottom of the grip.:israel: But I guess I shouldn't complain, at least the six-round mags work consistently, unlike the seven-rounders!!

[frank_drebin]

Hey O'Dell, there's flush....and then there's flush. My PM9 six-round mags are "flush" but that said, they still stick out a good 1/8-1/4" from the bottom of the grip.:israel: But I guess I shouldn't complain, at least the six-round mags work consistently, unlike the seven-rounders!!

When I cut the magwell length for my CW40c I originally had the mag base flush to the grip. That proved to be too close and locking in to place with a full mag was spotty at best. I ended up relieving the cut a little to give maximum reliability. I like it this way better too because I can fit the Pierce pinky extension on the magazine now where as before the thicker plastic lip of the extension wouldn't let the mag lock in.

[GOOFA]

I'll definitely try the Sig out when they become available. I don't have a problem with their looks. If I could only shoot my PM9 at a rapid pace as I do my MK9 I wouldn't bother looking at the Sig, but I can't. This was my best with my PM9 but I took my time. This was offhand @ 21 ft.


As soon as I pick up the pace with my PM9 as I would in a real life scenario my performance declines to an unacceptable level for some reason, this does not hold true with my MK9, CW9, K9 Elite 03 or a few others from different manufacturers that I may find myself carrying from time to time.
It's really a shame that my PM9 has become a safe queen the last 4 months. It's not often that you get a polymer Kahr that operates flawleesly from round one.

[jocko]

but what ur group does show is that the gun and shooter mated up pretty good for that target results. Super shooting IMO. I can't do it, with a rest. FRAME IT.

[Popeye]

I don't think I'll be trading my PM9 one on anytime soon. I'm not trashing the pistol but it's not for me. I have to agree though the way the mag finishes off is nice compared to the PM9. The grip angle I'm not liking though and the bump inside the trigger guard looks sort of like an Oops, didn't mean it to look like that. Also in small pistols I'm kind of partial to stricker fired DAO 9mm pistols.

[jocko]

10-4 on the striker fired. I would even think less parts needed= less weight.

[Popeye]

Right Jocko The trigger on the PM9 is the smoothest and nicest DAO trigger I've ever felt and I'd guess the trigger on the Sig is not as smooth being it's hammer fired. Like I said,just a guess though.

[jocko]

no doubt if sig offered this in a 12 ounce version, we might be saying, it is going to be a real competitor to kahr,but at 25% more in weight and a tad bigger, I see it as just another good 380 pocket gun that will appeal to some and not to others. Price will be a big factor to and normally sigs are not low prced guns either. I would be surpised if it is as expensive as the kahr PM9 though.

[wyntrout]

That hammer opening is another place for dirt and crud to intrude on the gun... and pocket lint for you pocket-carriers.

Wynn

[jocko]

never thought of that!!

[Popeye]

That hammer opening is another place for dirt and crud to intrude on the gun... and pocket lint for you pocket-carriers.

Wynn

Yup I agree Might not happen allot, but it only needs to happen once in a SHTF moment. That is the main reason I prefer striker fired pistols that are to be used for CC. As far as I'm concerned Kakr has nailed it with a striker fired, low bore axis, DAO smooth as butter trigger.

[russ3068]

Trigger guard - clipped off zip tie

[wyntrout]

And no extra buttons or levers... or eyewash clutter for guys... the look sported by too many guns these days... too busy with non-essential moldings or fake stampings. I like the clean, uncluttered and efficient design of Kahrs.

Wynn

[Seahawk60]

Looks a lot like the Diamondback to me.

Uh, noooooo...

The DB looks a LOT like a Glock...not that SIG... Heck, look at the takedown "lever" and squared trigger guard for starters.

DB380

[Seahawk60]

no doubt if sig offered this in a 12 ounce version, we might be saying, it is going to be a real competitor to kahr,but at 25% more in weight and a tad bigger, I see it as just another good 380 pocket gun that will appeal to some and not to others. Price will be a big factor to and normally sigs are not low prced guns either. I would be surpised if it is as expensive as the kahr PM9 though.

9x19...not .380...