Agrips on PM40 and mag - Photos

[garyb]

Yea, me too. I have not experienced the bleeding you expressed concern about, but that does not mean it could not occur. Perhaps there is a cause, but I have not seen it yet. I have not experienced any negative. I believe they have a 1 yr warranty and you should look into this through the company to make sure it covers dissatisfaction with bleeding color.

[2thhacker]

do the pre-cut grips fit a pm40 without modification? if not, would i be better off ordering the sheet and using the left-overs on the mags?

[garyb]

You are definately better to buy the preformed Agrips. I had to do very minimal trimming around my mag release and at the base of the grip. That was it. Otherwise the prefitted Agrips went on very easily and fit well.

If you are doing the mag bases, you will probably need the full sheet anyway, depending on how many mags you intend to do. From one full sheet, I did 3 of the 6 round mags with extensions and 1 of the 5 round mags (just the base). I had enough left over to do another 6 round mag or a couple more of the 5 round mags. Good to have some spare anyway, should I need to redo one in the future. I am guessing the 5 round mag will be the first to require replacement because I carry this mag every day. However, after over 3 months of carry, the material is holding up great on the grip and mags.

You might be able to do the grip and mags from a full sheet, but I am not really sure. I suggest the prefit agrip for the grip because it goes on so easily and fits properly. Attempting to fit the grip from a full sheet might be tricky on the first run. You could cut some cloth material first with some two sided sticky tape, in order to get the fit right before cutting the agrip. That might be a good solution for you. Let us know what you decide and how it turns out.

[2thhacker]

If the pre-cut is that easy I'd say it's worth it to buy both. Right now I only have the 2 mags it came with, but like you said having a bit extra is a good thing. By the way, I took it out again yesterday, only fired about 30 rnd instead of 100+ and I liked the pistol much better. Also, it was about 40 degrees instead of 20 (a "range trip" for me is outdoor shooting at my in-laws farm. Not ideal situation but the price is right and it never closes. I think I got a bad first impression b/c or weather and too many rounds too fast. I was anxious to get past the 200rnd mark as quickly as possible.

[garyb]

You are going to like the feel of the agrips. I agree that it is better to buy both the precut and the sheet, but it is your choice. You may want to play, but the precut reduces your chance of making a mistake. Good luck.

[Ransom]

Founds these Kahr grips on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...STRK:MESELX:IT

[garyb]

Not at all like the Agrips. I've seen the decal grips, which add bulk to the grip, if that is what you are looking for. However, they do not totally wrap the grip with the gripping material. They only fit the sides of the grip, not the front (fingers) or back (palm). They will probably do the job though.

[Ransom]

They don't add bulk they are extremly thin the whole thing with them is the feel weather or not you like the texture some love them some don't.

[Tat2dman]

Just don`t get it wet!

[garyb]

Just don't get "what" wet...the agrips or the decal grips. According to the manufacturer the agrips will tolerate getting wet. Simply allow them to dry. Go to the web site to check this out. I don't know about the decal grips. Thanks.

[earle8888]

Its great that a Custom made mod. is available! Sure looks different, shows a lot of Patience and talent.

[JLeephoto]

GaryB, You ought to get a commission. I purchased a precut set for my PM9 with CTG and they work great. I've been shooting 150+ rounds per range trip and the checkering was eating up my hands, but these grips cure that. FWIW, I can never get decals on straight but found installation pretty easy, and it does fit under the CTG with very minimal gap. Thanks for the info.

[garyb]

earle8888, Agrip is honestly very easy to install. No talent required, but they look great.

Jleephoto - Glad your installation went well and you like the Agrips. You will like them more and more. I agree that they dampen the sting from the sharp edges. You'll find they help the grip and just feel warm and fuzzy in the hand. Very comfy.

[garyb]

Agrip Update

8 months of rigorous use and daily carry and my agrips are holding up very well on the polymer grip. Like new. No shifting or wear noted and functionality has not changed. It handles wear, temperature changes and moisture very well. Good durable stuff.

However, during some hot very weather IDPA shooting the mag wraps did not hold up well on the PM40's extended grips. I did not have them wrapped properly for the direction of my hand pressure on the heal of the extension on the mag. High temperatures and hand pressure from the heel of my palm, pushed the material toward the base plate. I needed to re-evaluate the installation. Therefore, the mag wrap I demonstrated does not work well. I've always admitted when I'm wrong and learn from it. I cleaned up the mag extensions well and started over with a new piece of Agrip.

From this I have learned a much better way to wrap the mag grips, with a simple 3/4" W X 5" long strip of Agrip, overlapping on the pinky side of the mag by simply wrapping the material around the mag extension. Start by centering the Agrip strip over the heal of the mag and wrap one side around, pressing it into place, then the other side so it overlaps the first wrap on the front of the mag. Press the overlapping portions into the shape and curves of the polymer extension. This is exactly the same way the polymer grip is wrapped and it works well. I also entirely eliminated the small piece covering the base plate. This new wrap method is holding much better.

On the 5 round flush mag which I carry daily, the agrip material on the base plate was starting to slip a little. I removed the agrip material and simply blued the bottom portion of the mag. On stainless this comes out black and matches the rest of the gun very well, eliminating the shiny stainless. No agrip on the base plate of any of the mags.

The Agrip material is not really necessary on the grip portion of the mag extensions, but it does make them more comfortable in the hand to shoot; provides a better grip while shooting and making rapid mag exchanges; aesthetically it covers the stainless and blends the mag with the Agrip on the pistol grip.

Admittedly, it's not for everyone, but I like the function, feel, durability and looks of this material.

[Joe L]

GaryB--Thanks so much for putting up with all the questions and doing the original posts in January. I remember looking through this thread in March after borrowing a friends PM9 to shoot for a few weeks. Also nice to see a followup. I went to the plastic base plates to get a little pinky grip on my PM40 and since on my CM9 but I have never liked the shiney magazine exposed on the longer mags. This was especially obvious on the 8 rounder I received yesterday for my CM9--thing looks like a machine gun magazine on the little pistol. I may try the Agrip material on it just to experiment. This is fun.

Joe