How to get a clean mag drop on CM9/PM9

[tomwalshco]

my one G19 mag stick, kinda hard to squeeze plastic. I can live with it, as I don't carry a spare mag ever..

They're stainless, just wrapped in a thin layer of polymer or plastic. Squeeze away.

[Ressom]

With this mod to the magazines (sqeezing slightly) are the magazines falling completely out of the magwell? I haven't done the mod, but when I press the mag release, my magazines fall about an inch and then I need to pull them out. Is that normal?

I went back and did this mod and now my magazines fly out of the gun! Went out and tested and they still feed perfectly.

The trick is to pinch near the top third of the magazine after you remove or push down the follower.

[jmk1138]

In the FWIW category, I had problems with one dropping (one 6rounder worked), but then I polished it nice and shiny and didn't have any problems.

I was going to come on here and post something about the black baseplate, too. I slipped it right on and it works well. I've only tested with snap caps by running malfunction drilss and everything seems to work well.

[southernjeepn06]

So i've read this whole thread and I decided to go measure my new CM9s mag. Using my calipers it measures .486 near the top. When I push the mag release it drops 1/2" or so then stops. I checked the magwell to see where the mag was "dragging" and it wasn't on the sides at all but on the front face of the magwell.

Should I consider taking a small file to the inside of my magwell to shake the excess? I have 2-7 round magazines coming in the next few days so I will check them before I do anything. Just didn't see anyone stating that they have the same problem as me.

[Micha2u]

For what it's worth, I also had the problem with mags on my CM9 that would not drop free. After reading this thread I understood the proceedure but was a bit concerned about squeezing my magazines.

After disassembling my magazines and inserting them into the frame, I carefully looked and at the magazines (using soot) to determine where they were getting hung up on the frame. I then cut a small (1/2 " x 1/2") piece of 400 grit wet/dry sandpaper and attached it to the magazine where it was grabbing on the frame with some 2-side sticky tape. I inserted and removed the magazine 5 times.

This removed just enough of the polymer frame to allow for free-fall dropping of all my magazines.

Again...for what it's worth... I was more comfortable with removing the small amount of polymer on the frame than squeezing my mags and this worked well for me. My mags all fall free with no hangups.

[Joe L]

Micha2u--good point. I did clean up the magwell before I squeezed the magazines and then only when I verified some were wider than others.

[Micha2u]

I should add that my magazines all measured less than 0.490 near the lips and were still hanging up in my CM9. This measurement was what you were squeezing down to on yours and I was already there.

Taking off the small amount of polymer the way I did it was AFTER I measured all my mags and found them all to to measure the same at the "squeezed down' dimension that you were targeting.

[southernjeepn06]

i try what you posted. I received my new mags over the weekend and they also stuck. I can def tell it's hanging up on the front wall of the mag well before the mag release "spring". I'll try the sandpaper

[Brad737]

Jocko,
Glock mags are metal-lined. Give it a squeeze!

my one G19 mag stick, kinda hard to squeeze plastic. I can live with it, as I don't carry a spare mag ever..

[mikeg26]

Thanks, Joe L, for the magazine lip modification. My one CM9 magazine stuck and one slight clamp with a machine vise with the follower held back did the trick!

Other than that, I shot another 120 rounds yesterday with no problems except that I have to learn to shoot it better.

MikeG26

[FiddleDog]

I thought that they had not intended the mags to drop free. Aren't the rails inside the grip there to retain the magazine?

[Joe L]

I thought that they had not intended the mags to drop free. Aren't the rails inside the grip there to retain the magazine?

No. The rails are there to minimize contact area yet keep the magazine straight in the frame. Very effective if everything is in spec.
Joe

[Brad737]

IMHO, that would be a ludicrous design point. Let's face it. As nice as Kahrs are to shoot, they aren't designed to be range plinkers. They're designed to be tiny CCWs. With such small mag capacities, a reload is virtually guaranteed if you're attacked by more than one thug. Why make it more difficult to perform a reload in a high-stress situation?

I thought that they had not intended the mags to drop free. Aren't the rails inside the grip there to retain the magazine?

[Bawanna]

As ludicrous as it may sound I recall seeing at one time that indeed Kahr designed it so the mags would not drop completely. They drop about 1/2 to 1 inch and you pull the rest of the way.
They have I've heard addressed the drop issue for people who prefer they drop and cured them when sent back.

I like them to drop out and I can use the empty mag in my PM45 as a last resort projectile. Point at the sky and hit the eject button and it will fly accross the room, maybe just enough to stun my attacker.

[jocko]

NO UR RIGHT GREAT ONE. In the manual by kahr it says to take themagazine out of the gun press the mgazine release button and then PULL the magazine out of the gun. I don't remember reading them saying it will fly out of the gun on its own. My two in my PM9 drop about what u posted. No complaints from me. IMO to much rambo TV stuff on this fast reloading stuff. What are talking about her 20 seconds mmore to pull the magazine out of thegun, 10 seconds, 5 seconds, 1 second??? I can tell you I am very fast at getting my magazine out of my gun course after that event I am basically screwed as i don't carry a spare magazine. If I can't do it in 7 more than likely I am dead. How many gun fights can anyone relate to where more than 7 shots was fired by one defending himself. Not count cops who can carry a bozopoka exposed with no grief from people and certainly not counting the BG whose motive is to shoot as many rounds as he can with bgasically no escape plan. I am talking about plain ol John Doe who carrys concealed. To much TV for me I guess. Actually for me I know of only one person on this forum that has evfger fired his gunin defense and it was a 380 and he sur ein hell didn't empty the gun, nor need a reload. How many members do we have 8000+-? Pretrty low percentage of anyhone even having to draw their weapon in anger/defense.

Now I now what I just said goes against the grain of many here, but this is my opinion and definitely like assholes, we all have one..