New to forum... 1st Kahr CM9

[JBarbaresi]

Yes I broke down the mags cleaned them up, made sure the springs are inserted correctly ...Yes it only happens on the 2nd or 3rd rnd, but intermmitently.

if i'm following correctly you have 2 magazines and the FTF occur with both, are both of them 6 rounders?

what types of ammo have you shot and do you notice the failures with one kind over another?

are you making sure the rounds are fully seated all the way to the rear of the magazine when you load them?

have you let someone else shoot the gun to see if they can replicate the feeding issues?

is the slide actually locking back from the slide lock engaging "mid magazine" or is the round nosediving into the feed ramp? you made a comment about the follower hitting the mag release that i didn't understand.

sorry for the questions, i don't mean to insult your intelligence. if there is a mechanical problem causing stovepipes (i.e. something wrong with the equipment) it is usually a result of the magazines. the fact that you are having problems with more than one magazine would suggest either they both have an identical problem (not terribly likely) or it is a problem with the gun/shooter.

the ammo question is important because if some ammo works fine and others don't, it may be a power factor with the new gun and a result of the recoil assembly still not being fully broken in. if you have a chance to let another experienced shooter give it a try that will also be able to rule out shooter error and you can focus you attention on what's going on with the mechanical aspect.

[mightymouse]

Once the CM9 is set up, and broken in it should eat any quality ammo.
Shouldn't have to, but we've been down that road in other posts. Sometimes you need to give them a tweak or two.

[JBarbaresi]

I don't agree with the try a different ammo approach. Once the CM9 is set up, and broken in it should eat any quality ammo. imho, those that say their picky gun shoots only brand x or y are taking the easy way out and giving into the problem rather than taking the time and effort to make it reliable with all.
Shouldn't have to, but we've been down that road in other posts. Sometimes you need to give them a tweak or two.

i agree with your statement 100%. any gun intended for SD should eat any brand of ammo without problems. the key to your statement is "once set up and broken in". it sounds like the OP only has a couple hundred rounds through so far. if not fully broken in yet, some of the lighter loads out there would more easily manifest a malfunction if the gun is not broken in, more specifically with the recoil assembly.

it sounds like the 100 rounds of magtech worked fine, which is why i was wondering if there was another brand/load that was being used during the failures.

[Scoundrel]

Once the CM9 is set up, and broken in it should eat any quality ammo.
Shouldn't have to, but we've been down that road in other posts. Sometimes you need to give them a tweak or two.

So far, my CM9 eats whatever I feed it and begs for more. I've gone through Federal, S&B, and PMC, all 115gr FMJ.

Haven't tried any JHP yet. Still working on my shot placement, and using the cheap stuff for practice. I probably have a couple thousand rounds through it by now.

Other than a bad 7rd magazine, I've had no problems.

I'm just saying this to put a voice out there in favor of the CM9. It can be a perfect little gun.

[JBarbaresi]

So far, my CM9 eats whatever I feed it and begs for more. I've gone through Federal, S&B, and PMC, all 115gr FMJ.

Haven't tried any JHP yet. Still working on my shot placement, and using the cheap stuff for practice. I probably have a couple thousand rounds through it by now.

Other than a bad 7rd magazine, I've had no problems.

I'm just saying this to put a voice out there in favor of the CM9. It can be a perfect little gun.

this has been my experience with the cm9 also, only not quite as many rounds. i have shot 200 rounds of 147gr federal HSTs though and it didn't miss a beat with those either.

[Steeltoes]

if i'm following correctly you have 2 magazines and the FTF occur with both, are both of them 6 rounders?

what types of ammo have you shot and do you notice the failures with one kind over another?

are you making sure the rounds are fully seated all the way to the rear of the magazine when you load them?

have you let someone else shoot the gun to see if they can replicate the feeding issues?

is the slide actually locking back from the slide lock engaging "mid magazine" or is the round nosediving into the feed ramp? you made a comment about the follower hitting the mag release that i didn't understand.

sorry for the questions, i don't mean to insult your intelligence. if there is a mechanical problem causing stovepipes (i.e. something wrong with the equipment) it is usually a result of the magazines. the fact that you are having problems with more than one magazine would suggest either they both have an identical problem (not terribly likely) or it is a problem with the gun/shooter.

the ammo question is important because if some ammo works fine and others don't, it may be a power factor with the new gun and a result of the recoil assembly still not being fully broken in. if you have a chance to let another experienced shooter give it a try that will also be able to rule out shooter error and you can focus you attention on what's going on with the mechanical aspect.

Yes I have 2 mags and the nosedive was on the 2nd rnd of both mags and a couple of times on the 3rd. But it is intermittent

I have only shot the Fed. 115gr and the Magtech 115gr and 124gr fmj

Yes the rnds are fully seated, I learned to tap the back of the mag on my palm just to be sure

No I have been the only one to fire the weapon, this afternoon i'll have a buddy go through a few mags to see if it is repeatable.

It is a definate nose dive. I also locked the slide back disassembled a mag inserted the mag unassembled and them slide the mag follower in by hand just attached to the spring. There is a definete tight spot as the follower passed over the mag release

[JBarbaresi]

Yes I have 2 mags and the nosedive was on the 2nd rnd of both mags and a couple of times on the 3rd. But it is intermittent

I have only shot the Fed. 115gr and the Magtech 115gr and 124gr fmj

Yes the rnds are fully seated, I learned to tap the back of the mag on my palm just to be sure

No I have been the only one to fire the weapon, this afternoon i'll have a buddy go through a few mags to see if it is repeatable.

It is a definate nose dive. I also locked the slide back disassembled a mag inserted the mag unassembled and them slide the mag follower in by hand just attached to the spring. There is a definete tight spot as the follower passed over the mag release

how many total rounds through the gun at this point? do you notice more nosedives with the federal or magtech or is it about equal?

i didn't realize there is a known issue with the mag release contacting the follower, that's good to know. if that's the problem is there a fix?

[Scoundrel]

i didn't realize there is a known issue with the mag release contacting the follower, that's good to know. if that's the problem is there a fix?

Kahr says it's a myth. You can make your own judgment on it. Here's the post which talks about it (in reference to a CW45, but same issue):
http://kahrtalk.com/showpost.php?p=15667&postcount=2
(scroll down a bit to where it says "Magazine latch window (OEM follower on the left, modified on the right):")

[hoghunter]

SteelToes,
Like scoundrel said, Kahr has told me repeatedly that the follower catching the mag release is completely false (3 different Kahr folks told me this and laughed out loud about it). BUT, sanding the followers seems to solve 99% of all issues. I sanded the followers and it did not solve my issues. You can read all about my issues in my posts so I woun't bore you with it. As it turned out, kahr cut my recoil spring shorter and my issues went away. I have a hard time believing it but I won't question the result. I also used Mil-comm TW25B lube/grease when I got it back from Kahr but that was it. I did not sand the followers. Take a look at my recent thread and you can see the pic I took of my recoil spring.

[nmkahrshooter]

Welcome from New Mexico and you bought a great gun!