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  • New CM9- is this normal? - Video added!

    I ordered a CM9 last week after handling one and dry-firing one at Gander Mountain. (Ordered online, why pay over $100 more for the same gun? )

    The gun came in yesterday and I stopped by my FFL's to fill out the paperwork. (WI has a 48 hour waiting period on all handguns, so I don't have it home yet...) I checked the gun out and dry fired it a few times.

    I noticed that the trigger does not break until the trigger is touching the rear of the trigger guard (IE is pulled ALL the way back). I don't seem to recall the CM9 that I checked out at Gander Mountain having the same issue-
    Is this normal?
    Last edited by kayl; 11-19-2011, 08:00 PM.

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    It does have a long trigger pull, I guess without seeing what you're referring to it's hard to say if it's normal or not.
    Last edited by Thunder71; 12-11-2011, 07:36 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Thunder71 View Post
      Now you know why it's sometimes worth more to buy locally.

      It does have a long trigger pull, I guess without seeing what you're referring to it's hard to say if it's normal or not.
      The trigger literally breaks as the rear of the trigger his the plastic in the rear of the trigger guard. I've shot a lot of guns, but I've never seen a trigger break so far back

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      • #4
        It's not normal to be touching the trigger guard before it fires. That's not right. It may just seem very long since your not accustomed to it but you did say you compared it to another so maybe so.

        It pays to remember when you receive a gun from out of state, bought on line or whatever, inspect it at your dealer. If it's not right, not liking it might not work but if there is anything not as advertised or you think its not mechanically correct, don't accept it. Don't fill out the paper.

        Then your FFL can just send it back. Ownership isn't transferred and other than you didn't get a new gun everything is right with the world.
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        Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
        Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by kayl View Post
          The trigger literally breaks as the rear of the trigger his the plastic in the rear of the trigger guard. I've shot a lot of guns, but I've never seen a trigger break so far back
          I guess I've never paid much attention to it in relation to the back of the trigger guard, I know mine goes pretty close. If I can later, I'll check and see. It's a PM9 but shouldn't matter for comparison sake.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bawanna View Post
            It's not normal to be touching the trigger guard before it fires. That's not right. It may just seem very long since your not accustomed to it but you did say you compared it to another so maybe so.

            It pays to remember when you receive a gun from out of state, bought on line or whatever, inspect it at your dealer. If it's not right, not liking it might not work but if there is anything not as advertised or you think its not mechanically correct, don't accept it. Don't fill out the paper.

            Then your FFL can just send it back. Ownership isn't transferred and other than you didn't get a new gun everything is right with the world.
            Too late now-
            I'll check it out on Saturday when I can pick it up and post a pic...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kayl View Post
              Too late now-
              I'll check it out on Saturday when I can pick it up and post a pic...
              I figured as much in this case.

              Don't panic just yet. It may be perfectly fine when you actually shoot it. Playing with it at a gun counter at your FFL and fondling in the comfort of your own home or range can be two very different things.

              There's lots of good help for you right here if you need it and if you find it really isn't right, then Kahr will make it right. I'd not worry about fixing it until you know for sure it's broken.

              Welcome and we'll look forward to pics and a range report. Some say my glass is always half full but I got good wishes for you and hope it just runs like a champ.
              http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
              In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
              Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
              Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
              Cue sound of Head slap.

              RIP Muggsy & TMan

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bawanna View Post
                I figured as much in this case.

                Don't panic just yet. It may be perfectly fine when you actually shoot it. Playing with it at a gun counter at your FFL and fondling in the comfort of your own home or range can be two very different things.

                There's lots of good help for you right here if you need it and if you find it really isn't right, then Kahr will make it right. I'd not worry about fixing it until you know for sure it's broken.

                Welcome and we'll look forward to pics and a range report. Some say my glass is always half full but I got good wishes for you and hope it just runs like a champ.
                I'm not panicking; I've no doubts I'll get it taken care of in the end IF there is something wrong. I know my FFL thought it was weird too, but we'll see

                I'll let you know more on Saturday!

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                • #9
                  FWIW mine goes boom at this point which is also the end of the pull.
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                  • #10
                    Ok- Here's a quick video of the pull. As you can see, the trigger is all the way to the rear, then additional weight is applied before the trigger breaks.

                    http://youtu.be/gFkYclpsouk

                    Any thoughts?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kayl View Post
                      Ok- Here's a quick video of the pull. As you can see, the trigger is all the way to the rear, then additional weight is applied before the trigger breaks.

                      http://youtu.be/gFkYclpsouk

                      Any thoughts?
                      Where do we send the flowers? Seriously, let Kahr check it out.

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                      • #12
                        you're good to go.
                        "So Others May Live"

                        sigpic
                        PM9/night sights/CM9 barrel
                        PM40/night sights

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                        • #13
                          you said the trigger touch the back of the guard but in the clip i don't see the trigger touching the guard. it could also be that you uploaded such a short clip it was lagging or something try to upload a longer clip and redo it twice and maybe explain the problem in the clip as well. i bought a kel tec p11 and that trigger really touches the back of the guard. from what i saw in the clip my kahr and other kahr i saw at the LGS have the same thing.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TriggerMan View Post
                            Where do we send the flowers? Seriously, let Kahr check it out.
                            Send them to my wife on my behalf please! :-D


                            Originally posted by pur4 View Post
                            you said the trigger touch the back of the guard but in the clip i don't see the trigger touching the guard. it could also be that you uploaded such a short clip it was lagging or something try to upload a longer clip and redo it twice and maybe explain the problem in the clip as well. i bought a kel tec p11 and that trigger really touches the back of the guard. from what i saw in the clip my kahr and other kahr i saw at the LGS have the same thing.
                            Sorry, I should have clarified that the trigger couldn't move any further backwards at that point. Then I added more pressure and the trigger released.

                            I just wanted to know it was normal or not. Thanks!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kayl View Post
                              Send them to my wife on my behalf please! :-D




                              Sorry, I should have clarified that the trigger couldn't move any further backwards at that point. Then I added more pressure and the trigger released.

                              I just wanted to know it was normal or not. Thanks!
                              I just checked my PM9. It goes back a long ways but I feel I have brought the trigger to about a verticle orientation, though that's hard to confirm since it's curved. There is some space left behind it and the trigger does not come close to hitting anything. Maybe its your other Kahr that's out of spec.

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