A quick video of my success incorporating Greg's follower Mod/Update video added

[Tilos]

kahrcrazy13:
It would only be the $11 follower that you would "mess up".
I would suggest you buy a new one and have it on hand before you do the mods.
It's a magazine/mag, not a clip,
Tilos

[jimsea]

It would only be the $11 follower that you would "mess up".

LOL. This mod is about a simple adjustment that adds functionality. Substitute the word "functionality" for the word "cash" in this Capital One ad and that is how this thread is playing out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME5NJj_iEbw

[jimsea]

............Six rounds in one second.

Seeing that I've done 2 videos on how slow you can go racking with the modified follower, today I got bored and decided to see just how fast I could run them through.

Still have not been able to produce a jam with rapid fire at the range, racking slow, or running them through quick.........

http://youtu.be/YIwfwDaa7Hc

[340pd]

Jim: I take it that Hogue grip is the Jr. model installed upside down. Does it ever get snagged in your clothing or pocket?

[jimsea]

Jim: I take it that Hogue grip is the Jr. model installed upside down. Does it ever get snagged in your clothing or pocket?

Yes, H-jr installed upside down and lightly coated with 3M spray glue before install. The grip and the Desantis pocket holster both help the weapon stay in place in the pocket which 90 percent of the time is a pair cargo-style shorts.

When I draw, my hand is of course covering the grip and the Desantis holds the pocket so the gun comes out smoothly.

[ajbpsu]

Jim,
Did you bevel the top of the follower to allow it to fit within the feed lips?
I can not tell by the pics. Also, the video has been removed!
Thanks

[SixPak]

I'd like to say a big "THANKS" to the OP for this magazine mod. I bought a used PM9 Black slide and found that I couldn't slingshot the first round in a full magazine. Thanks to this mod, I can now slingshot the first round with ease. I tried Gold Dot 124gr JHP's and they load just fine with no jamming.

This is why I love informative forums! Thanks again!

[jimsea]

Glad it worked out for you.

FWIW I had previously posted some videos on my lovely wife's youtube acct which were subsequently deleted by her since I had not told her about them.

Here is a recent vid posted on a related thread.

Here are some pics and a short video taken today that show an original follower on the left and a modified follower next to it on the right......9mm (2pics) .40 (2 pics). Pic number one is also a good illustration of the flair peculiar to 9mm ammo in the mag tube and why extra sanding is required to help compensate for it.

The last pic is of an unmodified/stock Wilson Combat follower which shows essentially the form/support you get with a properly designed follower. This is what you are creating when you sand the original Kahr follower. You are adapting it to support the ammo caliber so you don't beat your gun to death, break followers, or crack mag tubes.

Here is today's vid: http://youtu.be/AXPzeQSaVog

It is a shame Kahr uses a generic follower that requires a slide stop release to chamber a round (pg 16 of manual). Tactically speaking this curtails the ability to execute the tap, rack, bang method of clearing a malfunction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJaQvV6q-D8

[JFootin]

Man, that's a great video! This modification is obviously a great improvement. Why don't Kahr look at all of this evidence and change the design of the followers? Are they asleep, in denial or do they just not care about getting the nagging problem of a poor mag design solved?

[muggsy]

Both my CM9 and P380 run just fine with the stock mag followers. I modified the follower in my original mag for the CM9, but since the break-in period all of the mags that I bought subsequently have worked without any modification. I would only modify a mag if it failed to consistently feed properly.

[jimsea]

Man, that's a great video! This modification is obviously a great improvement. Why don't Kahr look at all of this evidence and change the design of the followers? Are they asleep, in denial or do they just not care about getting the nagging problem of a poor mag design solved?

Kahr sure makes an outstanding weapon and this is coming from a guy who owns Kimber, WC and DW. I absolutely love carrying a Kahr especially during warm wx which is most of the time in FL.

That being said, a pistol can only be as good as its weakest component. The mag tubes are OK IMO if you tweak them to drop free. Not hard to do. This should be checked prior to shipment. However, the followers need to be scraped altogether and replaced with a good fitting follower that supports the ammo sufficiently in the mag tube. Doing this will eliminate nose dives and deliver the round reliably to the feed ramp while hand racking.

Per Kahr's statement on pg 16 of the instruction manual, admitting that anything other than a slide stop release may result in a FTF is unacceptable IMO for a SD weapon.

The mod to the follower makes the pistol run smoothly from day one. While true, you can smash rounds into the chamber with the slide stop until the gun loosens up enough for a crisp hand rack......why beat your gun like that?

I also wanted to add for new gun owners.........if you are cycling rounds in your new pistol at home with the slide release and the original Kahr follower to help get though the break in, make sure those rounds are properly disposed of before going to the range.......do not fire them. This is due to the likelihood of bullet setback. Setback is not a good thing.

[Em6726]

Im surprised the Chinese haven't capitalized on a follower that works for the P380. Im not bashing my P380 but I agree that its followers are out of tolerance by approx 1/16" or more. The follower is sloppy in the magazine and nose dives rounds right into the chamber feed ramp and not the chamber. Hope the Chinrese come out with one soon.