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  • The real reason NYPD disallowed Kahrs for off duty!

    I've been hearing and reading a lot of misinformation on the subject. So here is the truth. It's more like Kahr dropped NYPD.




    http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011...rass-kahr-arms

  • #2
    Dead link.
    Attitude: it takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile...and 3 for proper trigger squeeze.

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    • #3
      I heard it's the striker vs firing pin
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Retlawman590 View Post
        I've been hearing and reading a lot of misinformation on the subject. So here is the truth. It's more like Kahr dropped NYPD.




        http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011...rass-kahr-arms
        The NYPD wanted a heavier trigger pull than Kahr could get out of its present design. They went as far as they could. NYPD may yet find Kahr's last effort acceptable and reach agreement, but, don't hold your breath.

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        • #5
          oh, whatever, their loss. a lot of their leo's are under gunned by other agency's standards, wouldn't want criminals to be hurt by to big of a bullet

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          • #6
            did anyone ever teach those officers at nypd that if u keep ur finger out of the trigger and in ur nose our up ur ass, that will never happen. Makes me laught, when they think adding double the trigger weight which will certainly produce less accuracy will stop STUPIDITY.

            For the 5K that kahr had sold to the nypd they also provided free armorers people to the nypd to and serviced their weapons as needed for adda. long story, robably a blessing kahr finaly said shove it nypd. there is no accidental discharge, but there is neglietn discharge. NYPD blames the gun for stupidty,

            if they put speed regulators on their police cars it would save a hell of alot more lives and injurys to, but oh, thats different.

            about two years ago while just tooling downto Terre Haute on my trusty harley and kinda day dreamin, Ihad two state tropper cars whiz by me goingat loeast 80+ with lights on etc. I though wow, must be a wreck somewhere, so I kinda sped up to keep the cars in sight and WTF, they both stopped at a local restaurant/coffee show where at least a half dozen state and half dozen sheriffs cars were parked. They were going for fokkig coffee..
            . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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            • #7
              Just cause the NYPD carries guns doesn't mean there gun people. Probably the only time they fire them is when they have to ,to qualify to some sort of minimal standards. .....There loss.
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              • #8
                excellet

                Originally posted by Popeye View Post
                Just cause the NYPD carries guns doesn't mean there gun people. Probably the only time they fire them is when they have to ,to qualify to some sort of minimal standards. .....There loss.
                point to most it is atool like a hammer is to a carpenter. course I have seen more carpenters take more pridein their hammer than some police officers do in their guns.

                Our little local PD of 7 officers about 2 years ago was carry reloads. (damn truth_). When Ihear dof that I bought themall 100 rounds of defense ammo and again our little local PD of 7 officers had a combination of 40, cal, 45, cal and 9mm in that force. So much for trading off magazines if needed. Sometimes u just get what u pay for, and small towns certainly do not get the cream of the crop and I know nopting about the nypd but with close to 50,000 officers they have tohave some real real duds . I would think it is ore of an ego loss to kahr than an actual paper loss. Sometimes good ridence to bad garbage holds true.
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                • #9
                  "Police departments generally require a heavier pull because they want officers to realize the serious nature of opening fire."

                  Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...#ixzz1ms8R67pz


                  This is such typical liberal Bovine Shyte. Jocko said it all ... trigger weight weight doesn't fix stupidity. Nothing goes BANG without your damn finger in the trigger. But inaccuracy due to a proper trigger pull could NEVER cause any problems.

                  If you dont understand "the serious nature of opening fire" how the He77 do they give these people a badge where they are sworn to defend and protect the public. I'll bet the NYPD (according to that articles numbers) has more Kahr negligent discharge than the rest of the country combined (OK, maybe a guessing exaggeration, but I'm PO'ed ... can you tell). The shooting 'public' knows better ... why don't they.


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                  • #10
                    u can't fix stupidity!!
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                    • #11
                      I've always considered the Glock trigger more likely to be released - shorter pull, versus the longer Kahr pull... no matter what the weight is.

                      Other thing - the cited "accidental discharges" DO NOT SPECIFY the firearm that discharged. I wouldn't repeat those numbers as Kahr discharges... because I'm almost sure that's the entire spectrum of AD's not just Kahr AD's (due to the inclusion of ADs while facing a suspect or perp, the normal duty weapon, not Kahr is suggested as part of the entire AD count).

                      I'm sitting here wondering, if some Glock executive and his team planted and lobbied for the "improvements" in the Kahr....

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                      • #12
                        good point. but I really think the NYPD would not allow burgers to be served in thier department without some fokking NYPD criteria appllied to it. U know something like all NYPD cafeteria burgers must be able to take a 9mm round at 10 yards without falling apart. It must have aq bite strength before starting to crumble apart of at least 15 jaw pounds. One must be able to crap it and it remain 98% fully intact. Just sayin!!!

                        U know they have mental issues there for I am told that their NYPD restrooms have above every toilet paper rack a sign that says. "Fold, do not wad, wipe only once, do not try to use it again, let it drop. damn truth, trust ol jocko!!
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                        • #13
                          uyup ur

                          Originally posted by CJB View Post
                          I've always considered the Glock trigger more likely to be released - shorter pull, versus the longer Kahr pull... no matter what the weight is.

                          Other thing - the cited "accidental discharges" DO NOT SPECIFY the firearm that discharged. I wouldn't repeat those numbers as Kahr discharges... because I'm almost sure that's the entire spectrum of AD's not just Kahr AD's (due to the inclusion of ADs while facing a suspect or perp, the normal duty weapon, not Kahr is suggested as part of the entire AD count).

                          I'm sitting here wondering, if some Glock executive and his team planted and lobbied for the "improvements" in the Kahr....
                          right asit takes 1/2" of trigger pull to make a bang thing with a 7.5# kahr trigger and yet only a touch of the glock triggers tomake their 13# trigger go bang, can u figure that logic for me???
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TucsonMTB
                            Thanks

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                            • #15
                              NYPD = One department they could never have payed me enough to work for.

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