Apocalyptic Scenario #1

[Scoundrel]

Just as long as the toilet bowl doesn't start swirling the other direction. That would be too weird.

[DKD]

Sharp Sticks

Hey BAWANNA how about some custom handled sharp sticks..?

Seriously I would have several weapons
#1. A good 22 LR Rifle
#2. A tweleve gauge Shotgun
#3. one of my 1911's maybe two
#4. a 9MM High Capasity Springfield XD
#5. My AR15 in .223/556mm
#6. One of my Bolt action 30-06
#7. A couple of my Custom Black Powder one 20 gauge Smooth Bore w/ s barrel sites and my .54 cal Rifle and my 12 gauge side by side.

I have over 1,000 lbs of lead & alloy not to mention thousands of precast rounds for all of the above, primers and powder to last for years. Also all the press's and assocuated fixings to support the armory. Each one of the abov has a special place & function for any scenerio one might encounter. I also have at least 40 lbs of black powder, as I can also make & have made my own black powder.
Just in the event of an extreme case should the zombies attack in mass I do Have two 1/3 rd scale Black powder cannons , one is a 1" bore the other 1 1/2" bore. The latter can load up to 100 pellets of 000 buck shot at about 1300-1500 fps for a parting shot.

[Barth]

Response to the Apocalypse

[yqtszhj]

just give me a spear and we'll have dinner too
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[knkali]

Are you going to shoot birds and squirrels for lunch with your 1911?

How about a gun with very few moving parts, and a good buffer between the moving parts and the dirty parts? Like, for example, a Rossi Youth Combo single shot .22LR/410?

With a really big stash of .22LR and 410 shot you can feed yourself for a long time, and save the pointy stick for fending off bad guys if you don't think those calibers would do the job.

Yeah, it's a single shot so you could be overwhelmed easily, but if you've barricaded in well, maybe not. And, if you are a "spray bullets and hope for the best" kind of guy, you're going to run out quickly with an auto.

Also, the thing is very small and light, so it's easy to carry around with you - yet accurate enough for distance shots.

Kind of like a "Henry survival rifle" except that it doesn't all fit in the stock, and it's not an auto.

I have to rethink this since a lot of guys are say'n a .22LR. I am in SD mode and never thought of survival stuff so you are right about the 1911 idea. I also thought this is ONE gun you would have. So if it is only one do I go with SD or survival? I figured I would due the Omega Man treatment for food. Remember that movie?

[knkali]

I think a Ruger 1022 would be the .22LR to have for hunting food and "light" protection or defense. I have had a few in the past and still have a few of the 10-shot mags, as well as the 25-round extended mag with steel feed lips... and the loader for that mag. I really ought to invest in a stainless model and a bunch of .22LR bricks... probably CCI Mini-Mag HP. I have a good FoodSaver vacuum sealer and lots of military ammo boxes for storage.

A good .22 pellet rifle... barrel-break-action... with the newer technology spring system that's less susceptible to spring fatigue... would be desirable. I had a Winchester .22 back in the 70's that hit 650... or maybe only 550 FPS, but it would kill pigeons and just about anything I shot with it... very accurate.

I have a cheapie Gamo .22 pellet/shotgun that I got for under $90 from Sportsmans Guide on sale and using a $10 coupon. The shotshell is loaded with 20 or so #12 shot and pretty ineffectual at the "advertised range" of 10 yards(??) and certainly would have a pattern greater than 12 inches!!

I tried it at about 12 feet and the pattern was about 12 inches and the shot didn't all penetrate a piece of cardboard. I haven't really gotten the added BSA multicolored dot sight where I can shoot accurately. There's a rifled insert for pellets and it's supposed to shoot in the neighborhood of 800 fps... pretty good for SMALL game.

The gun has a brass bead front sight and just the vent-rib-type affair running the length of the barrel for clamping a sight onto. Maybe I'll take it to the range and see if I can zero that BSA sight better. I put some "dents' or pits in our hearth using it as a backup and shooting at a box of magazines. In adjusting the sights I skimmed a few rounds across the tops of the magazines that didn't fill the cardboard box all the way to the top.

A "quiet-shooting" weapon for taking small prey would be preferable to attracting attention from miles around. I would NOT consider a CO2-powered one, though... some don't hold the charge long and the CO2 carts might be hard to find... and they don't get the velocity that break-barrel or lever-cocked rifles do.

If I really wanted to spend the money... there are .25 pellet rifles with plenty of killing power for small game and larger. The ammo costs more and you would have to store a bunch of it, unless you could work something out with casting your own pellets.

AND I sure wouldn't give up MY Kahrs, either... CCW and backups.

Wynn

I like that quiet gun idea.

[knkali]

Oh, for WTSHTF, I think my battle pistol... XD45 Tactical with 6x13+1 rounds and the Hard Duty Night Sights will be my primary sidearm.





After all, I need to protect my stash when the SHTF!:





Wynn

Dude, your rigs are clean! Nice.

[Scoundrel]

I have to rethink this since a lot of guys are say'n a .22LR. I am in SD mode and never thought of survival stuff so you are right about the 1911 idea. I also thought this is ONE gun you would have. So if it is only one do I go with SD or survival? I figured I would due the Omega Man treatment for food. Remember that movie?

Are you referring to the 1971 movie "The Omega Man" with Charlton Heston? If so, it was before my time. Either way, I don't know what the food thing is that you're talking out.

I am familiar with the 2007 movie "I am Legend" though, which is basically a remake of The Omega Man.

[knkali]

Are you referring to the 1971 movie "The Omega Man" with Charlton Heston? If so, it was before my time. Either way, I don't know what the food thing is that you're talking out.

I am familiar with the 2007 movie "I am Legend" though, which is basically a remake of The Omega Man.

1971 and one of the first zombie movies to have a broader audience. Yeah I am getting old.

[redbeardmcg]

I would want two of my very good and trustworthy friends with me at all times: my Browning Hi-Power, and my PM9.

[Barth]

[MikeyKahr]

Unsure

I'm not sure you're ready, Barth. I suggest you take more time and invest more $ in preparation.

[Longitude Zero]

Glock 26 or 19

Should be able to raid enough stores to get 9mm ammo and the gun will run flawless without any maintenance...

As an experienced and seasoned firearms instructor I would not believe or hold that poorly informed position. Glocks will run with minimal care but I have seen many gum up and begin to malcunction and complete stoppages when not give a modicum of care.

[chrish]

I also don't think any ammo will be in a store to raid. Given this #1 scenario by the OP, and the fact that ammo becomes scarce at the drop of a hat today...there won't be anything to raid and if there were you'd have to come with your A-game and your AR/AK-game to come away with any spoils in this scenario.

[jimbar]

Since the original scenario was no manufacturing for up to 10 yrs, and I don't think I have room to store 10 yrs worth of ammo, I'm gonna pick the S&W 500 mag. When I run out of ammo at some point, I can then use the gun as a formidable club.The darn thing weighs over 4 lbs. Also, a bunch of pointy sticks and maybe a pellet gun would be nice to have.