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  • #16
    When it's possible I carry my CM9 and P380. My feeling is that I can get a second gun into action faster than I can reload in a stressful situation and I don't have to be concerned about a miss-feed. I carry my CM9 AIWB and the P380 in my RF pocket. Yes, it makes me lean a little to the right, but that's a good thing.
    Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

    Life Member - NRA
    Colt Gold Cup 70 series
    Colt Woodsman
    Ruger Mark III .22-45
    Kahr CM9
    Kahr P380

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    • #17
      You could have ya one of them V8's and that likely would straighten you right out. Specially if you put the can in your left pocket I reckon.
      http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
      In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
      Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
      Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
      Cue sound of Head slap.

      RIP Muggsy & TMan

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      • #18
        I too carry a spare magazine in case of a malfunction. Hopefully I'll never be in a situation where it has to be used. I would hope that after a shot or two is fired the predator [two or four legged] will be either down or at a full sprint away from me. I'm no longer in the military or a cop so I aint chasing them.

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        • #19
          Carry a spare for the same reason I carry a pistol. Rather have one and not need it, than need it and not have it.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by muggsy View Post
            My question didn't have anything to do with the proposed magazine ban. I asked, because several people told me that they wouldn't carry a Kahr, because of the limited magazine capacity. I've never felt under gunned even when carrying my P380. I've only witnessed one shooting. A LEO put two into the chest of a man with a knife. The assailant crumpled like a rag doll. I'm not saying that is always the case. I'm sure that there are occasions where a shooting victim has survived multiple hits. All I'm interested in doing is stopping the threat.
            Ah, my apologies...and I should probably known better, since you were bringing up the question.

            I don't feel undergunned out on the street, in public, with my PM45s, but the limitations of their magazines is part of what I am willing to accept in exchange for their compact size.

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            • #21
              3 shots, from 3 feet, in 3 seconds. We've all heard that many times. If that is what the data really shows, then you're right, Muggsy. Reloads are rarely needed.

              In the winter I can easily conceal a G23. In the warmest summer months, I carry a P380. That's quite a difference in fire power. I don't carry a spare mag and I don't feel under-gunned.
              NRA Life Member

              "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician." -Col Jeff Cooper

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              • #22
                I carry a spare magazine because it might give me a chance to fix potential issues more than anything.

                With a proper magazine pouch, I find it really isn't that much trouble to take one along, especially with the small single stacks. A double stack of 9 .45s is a little more troublesome, but my back finds offsetting the gun's weight to be a good thing.
                "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."

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                • #23
                  I never carry a spare mag on my person, but do have two extras in the car.

                  Out of the hundreds of guns owned by my family, the only relative (besides my LEO nephews) who ever actually threw down on a bad guy was my dear old Texas-born & bred Mother-in-Law (think "Endora" on the TV show Bewitched) who was age 80 at the time.

                  Late one night her little yappy dogs starting raising a ruckus when a perp was trying to get in the back door by her kitchen. Unbeknownst to me, she had purchased a Titan .25 ACP potmetal special from the local hardware store, then had a cop friend load it for her.

                  That was the mighty weapon she pulled out to confront the shirtless denizen from south of the border. When she pointed it at him and hollered "GIT OUT", the vato took a long look at it (and her) then took off running....with the yappy little dogs hot on his heels. Would've made a great Youtube video, which I'm sure would've gone "viral"...as they say these days.

                  No shots necessary, and that's probably a good thing because the LEO had forced one too many of those .25s into the magazine. But having that thing in Condition 1 is pretty scary, as the half cock "safety" is as reliable as an IRS audit turning out well for a taxpayer.

                  Took her until the next day to find those two toy dogs elsewhere in the neighborhood.

                  Just sayin'


                  BTW - I relieved her of that Titan .25 and gave her a new S&W Model 36 and instructed her on how to use it.
                  A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition
                  -Rudyard Kipling

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                  • #24
                    Good for your mother in law and good for you for fixing her up properly.
                    http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
                    In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
                    Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
                    Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
                    Cue sound of Head slap.

                    RIP Muggsy & TMan

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by JustinN View Post
                      I thought they caught him later, and my impression was all but one "hit" was a graze. I could be wrong and have stories mixed up. In that case she did stop the attack so it was successful IMO.
                      Lecerated kidney and liver I think and a punctured lung, so no, she hit him pretty good. I'm still not dead certain of the circumstance but apparently she and her kids were in some sort of attic space accessed from her bed room. I'm thinking from a closet as thats how we did em when we framed em. And the way the hits were described he may have been on his knees crawling when she shot him in the face.

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                      • #26
                        The only time I carry a spare mag is when I'm not carrying a back-up gun. I carry a spare mag for the warm fuzzy feeling it gives me even though I'll probably never need it. My theory is that one can never be too careful.
                        Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

                        Life Member - NRA
                        Colt Gold Cup 70 series
                        Colt Woodsman
                        Ruger Mark III .22-45
                        Kahr CM9
                        Kahr P380

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                        • #27
                          I carry all I can! Spare mag., back up gun.
                          And a bad attitude. The attitude comes from being raised by good hard working people and growing up in Detroit and being around people who wouldn't leave us alone.

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                          • #28
                            alot do carry a spare. I just feel no need to. If it floats ur boat go for it

                            Just like the gals ol mother in law, it was the element of surprise tothe BG that got him the hell outta there. A gun is a gun to some BG, alot even carry junk guns themselves, so again when u pull a gun on a Bg, he really wants no part of u. They are basically cowards and most are totally untrained. I just heard on TV where 7 peoople were killed in chicago this weekend and then they had some fokking lady on there that her son was killed in one of those 7 and that made her 3 son that was killed in chicago. She is outta kids. She claimed he was such a good reformed person to for WTF he been in prison for drugs and gang banging. Yes he was black to. Now I don't give a fokk who u are or what color u are if u loose 3 kinds in a town to guns, then sumpin tells me thise 3 were not altar boys at the local Catholic church either. Course Rob Emuale says it really ain't the guns either it is the culture--duh, no sh!t dick tracy, I wonder what gave him his first clue.

                            Think aobout it, 3 sons all dead to gang violence and yet to hear her, it wasn't their fault..

                            No doubt if u live in Chicago a single stack gun is not the way to go. Strap one to each leg, 8 sparemags, flak vest for and aft. Night vision would be a nice option to. Better yet MOVE.
                            do u really think the chicago police are that concerned ab out gang bangers killing gang bangers??? I seriously doubt it. Probalby pisses um off if they hav eto leave a dunkin donut shop to rope off a shootin area due to gang bangers.. though we never hear the great one talking aout this problem in his HOME TOWN.

                            Hope this thread doesnt get locked..
                            . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                            MAY GOD BLESS MUGGSY

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                            • #29
                              But to answer Muggsy's initial question.....discounting work/professional neither I nor anyone I know personally has ever found a reload necessary. I don't carry a spare mag. I do often carry a speed strip in my off hand front pocket just 'cause it's easy.
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                              • #30
                                Well Jocko, no doubt that sad momma is gettin' down to business to churning out some more stellar citizens...on the taxpayers' dime, no doubt.

                                They are Mayor Rahm's beloved constituents.
                                A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition
                                -Rudyard Kipling

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