I am leaving. Goodbye.

[chrish]

I feel your pain Scoundrel. I recently, for multiple reasons, pulled the plug on all social activity on the internet other than KahrTalk and P250SIG.com. I was finding the same thing in other non-gun social venues that just constantly kept me spun up. There are definintely folks here that I disagree with, some still here, some not. But in the end, it's still a bunch of gun folks and I feel SURE that even w/ our disagreements on political or social issues, I'd still be friends with some of those people in person and totally enjoy a day at the range. Some of my closest friends are moderate liberals and nut-job Libertarians (which I am also some days). We all still get along, for the most part.

I try to ignor as much of the foil hat stuff as possible, but yes, it seeps in and makes you nuts. Your wife is totally right about the overall 'vibe' from a place gradually affecting you and not being able to truly filter part of it out while taking in only the good. It's all in there and it all gets in your head.

Lately, I've deliberately just typed responses to stuff and then deleted it...only occasionally letting go and posting. It lets me vent and then reconsider, before pushing the envelope further. But I'm trying harder to just pass it by and forget it. It's pretty easy to do after awhile. I know I'm right, so why bother arguing. I'm always right :-)

But ripley has it right and that's really where I've been trying to focus lately. The internet and 'social' is not real, its not real relationships regardless of what people want to rationalize and say about it. I've been doing more family, more friends, more LOCAL and STATE politics where you CAN make a difference. And I will be making every effort to stay in those places as my piority and only visting internet social hangouts as a form of entertainment.

[Bawanna]

Wow! A lot can happen in the half hour it takes me to log of at work and log on at home.

I've thought about bailing many times, more often lately than ever. Most all of us at one time or another have thought about it.

In the early days we actually had a posse to rally and bombard the quiter with PM's and such to convince them to stay. I remember Dietrich bailing several times. Zena, my very first cyber bride even offered him her body if he stuck around which of course he did, not sure if she provided the body or not, a lady never tells.

Jocko, Wyn, several others got fed up at one time or another.

Lot of history here in the short time Kahrtalk has existed. Sadly the times we live in, there's no place to hide. Every post you read has the potential to inform you of another misdeed by man or government.
I've always been labeled a positive guy but in regards to our country it's very hard to maintain any semblance of positive. I truly think we're doomed.

I don't know how to subscribe to a thread so I'm out of here, talk about me all you want, I probably won't read it or maybe I might or not. I got kahrtalk in me blood so probably can't get away if I wanted to or not, or maybe so, where the hell is the scotch anyhow.

Pretty decent day at work today, didn't think I'd need it but guess I was wrong or right depending on how you look at it if you want to look at it and I don't know why you'd not want to look at it although there's really no picture so it's not like it's worth a 1000 words I guess.

Maybe a Kentucky Fried Chicken Pot PIE is in order or not since I just ate, but it was chicken although not in a pot or in a pie, rice too I think but we didn't throw any at the bride, not sure why.

[MikeyKahr]

Re: I am leaving. Goodbye.

I have had some folks provoke me at times.
The ignore list is an amazing and powerful tool to filter particularly offensive or combative people.
They can't PM you either.
And you can read threads freely without being offended or provoked.

I felt like a great weight had been lifted off me as a member once the filter was in place.

I would recommend you take advantage of that tool.
And see how much more pleasurable the board can be with a personal filter in place.

Just a thought...

I was wondering why no one responds to my posts or private messages. Goodbye Scoundrel, hope you feel better now that you have gotten all thirteen paragraphs off of your chest.

[Bawanna]

From Chrishs post"But ripley has it right and that's really where I've been trying to focus lately. The internet and 'social' is not real, its not real relationships regardless of what people want to rationalize and say about it. I've been doing more family, more friends, more LOCAL and STATE politics where you CAN make a difference. And I will be making every effort to stay in those places as my piority and only visting internet social hangouts as a form of entertainment. "

I beg to differ in some respects. This forum and many of the things we talk about here are real, very real. The personal things we discuss about our individual lives and happenings within are everyday real.

Opinions, and discussions maybe so, maybe not, that is indeed internet.

The big thing and I'm sure it's just choice of words is friends. My friends here are truly my friends. Some of my best friends I've never met, I couldn't pick them out of a line up if my life depended on it, but I'd go to the mat for them and in many cases I truly believe they would for me too.

I get stuff and send stuff all the time to FRIENDS here and they are not all 5000 poster friends either, some far less than 100 or even 50.

I offered to drive to North Carolina to help Dietrich in his final days and I truly meant I'd do it and I would have. He honestly wanted to just meet up but said there was nothing I could do.

One just have to sort the wheat from the chafe sometimes, it is internet but there's an awful lot of REAL here too.

Now I'm out of here.

[knkali]

Scoundrel, PM sent. I liked your style.

[Bawanna]

" Now even the administrators of this forum are openly participating in the hatred, doom, and gloom. And I simply cannot abide it any longer."

It's ok to name me by name, I'm just a moderator, certainly not admin and I'm sure I give JohnH and JustinN ulcers from time to time with my say what I think and lack of Political Correctness attitude, poor as it is too.

I mean no harm and I speak the truth as I see it. We've spent far too many years focusing on PC not offending anyone, let them offend us but don't offend them. It's a big part of why things are the way they are.

I make no apologies for myself or my actions, I have from time to time apologized to the boss so he wouldn't run me off but I've never received any punishment or warnings either, probably thought about it a few thousand times but never sent.
If I've been a detriment or a downfall to kahrtalk or more importantly Kahr in general then I deserve to be horsewhipped and hung. I accept that if such is the case.

Sorry you can't abide by it.

[mr surveyor]

am I too late to say bye bye?

[JFootin]

Scoundrel,

You'll miss us! Take a rest for a while. Get your perspective realligned. You're welcome when you want to join us again.

[palhandy]

" Now even the administrators of this forum are openly participating in the hatred, doom, and gloom. And I simply cannot abide it any longer."

It's ok to name me by name, I'm just a moderator, certainly not admin and I'm sure I give JohnH and JustinN ulcers from time to time with my say what I think and lack of Political Correctness attitude, poor as it is too.

I mean no harm and I speak the truth as I see it. We've spent far too many years focusing on PC not offending anyone, let them offend us but don't offend them. It's a big part of why things are the way they are.

I make no apologies for myself or my actions, I have from time to time apologized to the boss so he wouldn't run me off but I've never received any punishment or warnings either, probably thought about it a few thousand times but never sent.
If I've been a detriment or a downfall to kahrtalk or more importantly Kahr in general then I deserve to be horsewhipped and hung. I accept that if such is the case.

Sorry you can't abide by it.

Don't beat yourself up, you have a difficult job to do in wiping the butts
of the babies and drying the eyes of the whinny babies so do the best
you can and don't take it personal... someone has to keep the ship
on the right course and keep it off the rocks.....
I am new here but not new to forums in general so I know
it is difficult to keep the forum a place that people can come to
without feeling like they just joined someones carnival of lost souls....lol

Rules are good and so are moderators.....

[RevRay]

When somebody says they're leaving ... do they leave right then and there ... or do they leave after they've read everybody's response? I'm just asking so I'll know whether to comment or not.

[Bawanna]

I think it's like the hotel California, no one ever leaves but Scoundrel has more will power then most except for Dairy Queen Blizzards.

[kahrseye]

We live in desperate and troubling times, no matter what side you're on. Emotions run very high and for good reason, there's alot at stake. Sometimes it's good to step back and take a look from the outside. I've been on numerous gun sites and this is hands down the best I've ever had the privilege of joining. The moderators and admin are top notch as well as fair and compassionate. Any time you have numerous members who are passionate about what they believe there's going to be trouble occasionally. It's no different than having an argument with friends or relatives. Many times we say or do things we wish we could take back immediately after we commit the errors. The big difference is that sometimes we say more because we are on the internet and are not facing the person (s) directly. We can simply shut off the computer and walk away. If we were with each other face to face we probably wouldn't be as rude to each other as we sometimes are. I don't like to see anyone leave even if they don't agree with me. Everyone brings value to this forum (some exceptions do apply). If or when Scoundrel comes back, I hope we all would welcome him.

[deadeye]

You gotta do what ya gotta do. I guess I am too old school. I take everything for what it's worth to me. Whether it's my neighbor or the government that attacks me I fight back. Old school as I said. Just won't run.

[O'Dell]

" Now even the administrators of this forum are openly participating in the hatred, doom, and gloom. And I simply cannot abide it any longer."

It's ok to name me by name, I'm just a moderator, certainly not admin and I'm sure I give JohnH and JustinN ulcers from time to time with my say what I think and lack of Political Correctness attitude, poor as it is too.

I mean no harm and I speak the truth as I see it. We've spent far too many years focusing on PC not offending anyone, let them offend us but don't offend them. It's a big part of why things are the way they are.

I make no apologies for myself or my actions, I have from time to time apologized to the boss so he wouldn't run me off but I've never received any punishment or warnings either, probably thought about it a few thousand times but never sent.
If I've been a detriment or a downfall to kahrtalk or more importantly Kahr in general then I deserve to be horsewhipped and hung. I accept that if such is the case.

Sorry you can't abide by it.

Bawanna, I don't think you need to apologize for anything. You are definitely a peacemaker among war mongers and I include myself in the latter. You have more patience than I could ever hope to have.

That said, I sometimes wonder how some people let others get to them in such a negative way. I belong to quite a few forums and find that opinion takes many forms, some for and some against my own beliefs, but that's always true when you deal with a large cross section of people. If I leave KahrTalk it will be because I was kicked out or I lost interest in firearms. The first is far more likely. However, it certainly won't be because I disagreed with someone or someone disagreed with me or that I got my feelings hurt.

[mr surveyor]

why do people seem to have a need to announce their plan to leave a virtual world chat board? I just don't get it.

I never considered KahrTalk to be Hotel Kalifornia .... maybe a roach motel. But that would mean you can't just leave if it was a roach motel. Now I'm getting more confuseder.