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    do you carry in a place of worship?
    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...co-church?lite
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    My church has a large, active and well equipped security force staffed with federal, local and military LE. Out of the average 2500 people in attendance on Sundays, I would guess there are 100 or more weapons present.
    Judging by today's left wing, looks like Senator Joe McCarthy was right after all.

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    • #3
      to answer the original question..... Damm right I carry at church, as do at least half my Sunday School buddies (as well as quite a few others in our 400+ attendance). Most of us "know" who else carries, because we hunt/fish/shoot together.

      As for an "organized security team"...... no way. There's too many legal hurdles involved when you start mixing concealed carry and the security team type setting.... at least my understanding of Texas law. We prefer to continue to be just average citizens exercising our legal right to carry in all places otherwise not deemed off limits.

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      • #4
        Unless a church already has an existing culture where armed security or private concealed carry is approved, I would imagine this could be a touchy subject in some places. At least it would probably be in a lot if churches in CT.

        I don't choose to carry in & around my church for two reasons ... 1) It's not my place to make those kinds of decisions on behalf of my church. To choose to carry as a private citizen is one thing, but to carry as the pastor of my church is a different matter (especially from a legal & liability perspective). And 2) I'm way too new at all of this to even try to bring the subject up for discussion right now. And even if I did bring it up, I would have to defer to others to provide meaningful input due to my inexperience.

        With the obvious polarization that the subject of guns can create, there are other issues that I would need to consider before proposing anything formal at my church. So for now, we have a sort of "don't ask, don"t tell" unofficial policy at my church. I know people who probably carry at our church services. However, I don't ask them if they are and I don't tell them they can't. AND I would oppose any attempt that anyone might make to suggest that they shouldn't.

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        • #5
          CCW in place of worship

          Originally posted by mr surveyor View Post
          to answer the original question..... Damm right I carry at church, as do at least half my Sunday School buddies (as well as quite a few others in our 400+ attendance). Most of us "know" who else carries, because we hunt/fish/shoot together.

          As for an "organized security team"...... no way. There's too many legal hurdles involved when you start mixing concealed carry and the security team type setting.... at least my understanding of Texas law. We prefer to continue to be just average citizens exercising our legal right to carry in all places otherwise not deemed off limits.

          surv
          I could type a response, but basically...this
          No sir, I do not own any guns. I sold them all in fear that they might grow legs and murder me and my family since they've been portrayed as such evil objects by our current administration

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          • #6
            I do, mainly because there is a lot of people, and 2 exits, so "IF" someone wanted to do something, there is a lot of room for casualties, and I will do everything I can to make sure I am not one.

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            • #7
              Re: CCW in place of worship

              I don't for 2 reasons.

              1. I live in the only state in the US that does not allow concealed carry.

              2. I do not go to places of worship.

              That being said, once Illinois allows concealed carry, I fully intend to carry anywhere and everywhere that are not specifically prohibited.

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              • #8
                I do, I think the way this country is going sadly its only a matter of time before some nut shoots up a church. I hope I'm wrong.

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                • #9
                  We are part of a small church - typical attendance on a Sunday morning ranges from 60 to 70 adults. Sunday evening and Wednesday services are about 1/2 that. Five or six of us carry at all times, including my wife and myself. Although we're the recovery pastors, we sit at the rear where we can easily see who is coming in. One of the worship team covers the platform. I quietly follow the folks to take the offering from the back of the auditorium to the office to make sure they are safe. Two others routinely sit near the front and middle. We are not there as any part of a security team - we are just fellow worshipers who choose to carry. The senior pastor is aware and has no problem - but for legal reasons has not asked us to carry. I think most of us would pause only long enough to give the BG an opportunity for repentance and to accept the Lord before we gave him the opportunity to meet Him.

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                  • #10
                    As you can see from my nickname, I'm a big proponent of carrying in church. It only makes sense. In my view, the issue is best left with the responsible parishioners. When subjects like this are brought before boards (in this case, of a church), all the typical arguments are put on the table--and the end result can be dissention and/or a policy prohibiting carrying. Even in Illinois--according to a policeman that spoke to me the other day--concealed carry in church is legal.

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                    • #11
                      Even though I'm not a big believer in organized religions, I have CC in churches at weddings and funerals, Etc..
                      To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target.


                      SHOOT STRAIGHT, RIDE SAFE

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                      • #12
                        I do, without any fanfare.

                        I met and prayed with folks who were at Wedgwood Baptist Church in September 1999. It never should happen, but crazy knows no social bounds.

                        Texas law is such on the subject that it is allowed unless otherwise properly posted to be not allowed ( sec. 30.06 ). So I do most Sundays and pray that it is never an issue at our small church services (60 to 70 wonderful folks). Not sure if there are others also, but I would not be shocked to find I was not alone.
                        I was once asked if I was "a paranoid for carrying my Kahr".
                        "Nope" I said, "just prepared".
                        " prepared for what" he asked?
                        "more stuff than you are"
                        God Bless our Troups!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Popeye View Post
                          Even though I'm not a big believer in organized religions, I have CC in churches at weddings and funerals, Etc..
                          Nobody has ever accused me of being organized ... just saying.

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                          • #14
                            Planedude, I am right there with you on the Wedgwood Baptist. One reason I do carry, as you say, without fanfare. Only one pastor knows I carry because he does too. As far as that goes, it is better for no one to ever know and I pray that I never have to let anyone know. We are a much larger church and in a meeting with the local LE, they encouraged anyone licensed and comfortable to carry.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by knkali View Post
                              do you carry in a place of worship?
                              Odd question. Wth not?
                              NRA Benefactor

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