What part of range safety don't you understand?

[garyb]

Mortally wounded buck

did u find the deer???

Jocko,
Unfortunately I did not. I've been out for the past 6 weeks and have passed up numerous shots at skipper bucks waiting for a slammer. Thursday at 2:15PM a slammer walked in straight at me. I saw him at 40yrds, grabbed my bow and got ready. At 32 yrds he stopped when he crossed a spikes trail (which I let pass an hour earlier). He was still facing me, but I knew this was the moment. I drew the arrow and waited for him to decide which way he was going to turn. He looked back toward the way he came, with his head facing into the wind. As he did, his front shoulder opened up to me and I let the arrow go. As the arrow was in the air, he twisted his entire body 90, to go back the way he came in and my arrow hit him in the gut and passed through. He bounded off in the direction he came and I saw him stop at 80 yrds and start walking slowly up hill into the wind. I realized that it was a terrible situation. I waited 2 hours to retrieve my arrow, which had gut and blood saturating it. There was a spew of gut and blood on the exit side of the deer on the ground. I pulled out and called a good friend to help me on Friday. We found a meager blood trail for about 70 yrds and a bloody bed at the end of it. There was one more spot of blood after the bed. We knew his direction and he was heading into the wind. WE looked all day Friday... two very tired old guys.
I had a few beers to numb my mental disappointment last night...while I got wrapped up in the training safety crap. I was grumpy...sorry.

I am getting ready to go back out and look again today. Perhaps the coyotes found him, I will hear the crows on his carcass and save his rack. He was a nice 8 or more pointer. Not really sure because everything happened sooo fast. It is not what a dedicated bow hunter wants, but I know this happens. I failed me and that beautiful buck who is out there suffering. So off I go for the day....

[muggsy]

At the indoor range last night, I'm two bays away from a dad and three sons, aged something like 6 to 9. They're shooting pistols and .22 rifle. At one point, I step out of my bay and look over and dad has a pistol lying on a table and instead of being pointed downrange, it is pointed right at me. The .22 rifle is lying on an adjacent table and instead of being pointed downrange, it is pointed the opposite direction -- right at one of his sons who is sitting on a chair watching his family members shoot.

DUH!

I usually speak to such nitwits myself, reminding them that firearms are always to be pointed downrange, but this time, I got a range employee, who explained this fundamental safety rule to nitwit dad.

I hope nitwit dad learned something.

At the range that I utilize all first timers are required to watch a range safety video before stepping out onto the range. There is always a range safety officer watching over the range when anyone is shooting. He and I have become good friends and he even helps me to police my brass when I finish shooting. You should discuss range safety with the owners of the range. It might help to reduce their liability insurance costs. It could save your life.

[muggsy]

I really shouldn't even be engaging in this debate for a more fundamental reason. This all surrounds a CCW permit and the assumption that you need one in the first place, which I have to remain within the letter of the law. But I don't not think they should even exist in the first place. The CCW permit is already an overreaching grab by the government into an area that the Constitution says they have to stay out of.


So, if there were no 'permit' to get, we are back to saying you have to have training to even buy a firearm. Which...um...nope.

My thought is that the second amendment to the constitution is my concealed carry permit. The right to bear arms shall not be infringed.

[jocko]

http://youtu.be/Dd7FixvoKBw

If u watch this viudeo, it should remind u of ol jocko. YOU people just don['t understand me. I feel for this teacher. dumb fokking students no less Just sayin

[b4uqzme]

That's f-in hilarious! A little comic relief? You been studyin' Shakespeare on us Jocko?

[chrish]

My thought is that the second amendment to the constitution is my concealed carry permit. The right to bear arms shall not be infringed.

+1 gazillion. You said it.

[b4uqzme]

Bingo

[chrish]

'course, you fellas know that makes us the exception to the rule? we are the CRAAAAAAZY ones.

[b4uqzme]

Crazy is as crazy does....

[Salty]

Difficult issue to address - lots of new gun owners out there who did not grow up with grandpa's / dad's training. NO NRA Hunter Safety coarse. They get there training from the movies. Don't know or want to learn how to maintain the firearm. VS Experienced responsible owners / shooters. Finding the balance between rights and safety is an undefined road. I can not count the number or shooter's on the range I have assisted in education with their new firearm - in particular semi-auto pistols. I can tell you one of the scariest times for a gun shop owner is when a person comes into a shop full of customers and starts waving his rifle or pistol around while asking how does this "thing work".

[Bawanna]

I can attest to the gun shop horror stories. When I first got hurt I did a little on the job training thing in a gun shop, I'd still be there if I could hear. But anyhow a uniformed female officer came in walked up to me and said she needed some ammo. I asked her what caliber and she drew her semi auto and pointed it straight at me and said whatever this thing takes.

The shop owner who happened to be a short distance down the counter was watching probably because of the uniform but maybe because he wanted to see my sales magic. He came down full tilt pushed her arm aside and pinned the gun to the counter.

Made her leave the shop and told her never to come back. At the time I wasn't all that freaked out, in hind sight it was a pretty scary thing.

[b4uqzme]

Difficult issue to address - lots of new gun owners out there who did not grow up with grandpa's / dad's training. NO NRA Hunter Safety coarse. They get there training from the movies. Don't know or want to learn how to maintain the firearm. VS Experienced responsible owners / shooters. Finding the balance between rights and safety is an undefined road. I can not count the number or shooter's on the range I have assisted in education with their new firearm - in particular semi-auto pistols. I can tell you one of the scariest times for a gun shop owner is when a person comes into a shop full of customers and starts waving his rifle or pistol around while asking how does this "thing work".

Those are programs I fully endorse: the gun shop owner who offers a lesson with every firearm purchased, the range officer who spends a few minutes with every new shooter, the experienced shooter next door who takes his newbie neighbor to the range for some one on one instruction...

[jocko]

I can attest to the gun shop horror stories. When I first got hurt I did a little on the job training thing in a gun shop, I'd still be there if I could hear. But anyhow a uniformed female officer came in walked up to me and said she needed some ammo. I asked her what caliber and she drew her semi auto and pointed it straight at me and said whatever this thing takes.

The shop owner who happened to be a short distance down the counter was watching probably because of the uniform but maybe because he wanted to see my sales magic. He came down full tilt pushed her arm aside and pinned the gun to the counter.

Made her leave the shop and told her never to come back. At the time I wasn't all that freaked out, in hind sight it was a pretty scary thing.

she probably works in ur department!! Just sayin The reason u was not freaked ouytr was tha tyou were probalby staring at her 38's and didn't even notice the gun.

[muggsy]

Years ago I was deer hunting with friends in Hocking County. I was sitting in the back seat of a pick-up when one of the guys climbed into the front seat pointing the muzzle of his twelve gauge directly at my nose. When I asked him not to point his shotgun at my head, because it may be loaded he replied that there was no maybe about it, it is loaded. I never hunted with that S.O.B. again.

[jocko]

Man to think that u were just a hair trigger away form never bein on this forum!!!

Wow some dreams just never come true. Just sayin