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    OK just to stir things up a little how many practice drawing from concealed carry. I feel this a important thing to do if you carry a gun then you need to know how to pull it out. I practice all the time, if I can’t have it pointed and fired in less than 2 seconds then I feel I have failed. The times we live in mandate that we are prepared. And not to practice this skill is a failure on our part. Just split a order with my buddy and got some Laserlyte plinking cans a little pricey but what you can learn is unpriceable, I set the cans on my work bench stand back around 12 feet and draw with my laser trainer in the gun. And sometimes I can hit, it’s a small target I want to see a least 95% and to get to that mark I will need a lot more practice . That’s my thought on this, be aware and all ways think!!
    Rest in peace old sailor Mike
    In Memory of Mom: Standing 4'11" She would say come here so I can hit you as I looked down at her
    As my Olde buddy Jake said point at the belt buckle and muzzle rise will take care of the rest
    Live a little learn a lot

  • #2
    I would like to practice draw and fire but the local range doesn't not allow draw or rapid fire. Trying to find a place in the country the is allowed by the land owner is really questionable and unlikely. Would like to be able to do it though. Of course I continue to practice around the house. Of course it's unloaded.
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    • #3
      Laserlyte in my office, I draw from concealed all day long. Light switch, coat rack, door knob, all good targets.

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      • #4
        I try to practice at least 10 times every evening.

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        • #5
          Coming from an LE background and a firearms instructor, drawing from concealed or at least from the holster with an off-duty weapon has come to be the only way I practice, it's the only way that I know.

          Anyone can stand in front of a target and fire X amount of rounds from a static position and hit the target...I hope anyway.

          Now that I'm retired (nearly 17 years) I qualify under LEOSA (HR218), I'm still required to draw from a holster firing the COF.

          The only way I practice with a carry gun is from the holster.

          This is the main reason that I am opposed to pocket carry, along with others.

          No one alive using pocket carry could possibly qualify given the times allowed under any LE COF, not to mention a real life situation.

          Back in the day, officers were required to qualify with their OD gun and drawing from whatever holster they carried it in. Those who used an ankle holster always had a difficult time and some did not make the times and did not qualify, they could NOT carry the gun.

          There were a lot of ankle holsters for sale.

          "Train as you fight, you will fight as you train"

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          • #6
            Excellent post, JimC, and good contribution to the thread. Do you have any info on, or a link to the COF you use?
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            "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician." -Col Jeff Cooper

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            • #7
              I practice all the time. Part of IDPA. As an aside, everyone can practice draw dry fire. Laser helps.
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              - "One should diligently train at all times." Miyamoto Musashi
              - "Train in technique until it requires no thought - no mind and just happens." Takan Soho
              - "The truth beyond the technique....Here's where we stop thinking and start shooting." Brian Enos
              - "A single sword against the cold sky." Yamaoka Tesshu
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              • #8
                Originally posted by RRP View Post
                Excellent post, JimC, and good contribution to the thread. Do you have any info on, or a link to the COF you use?
                This is one that I practice with and I qualify here in FL over the state mandated COF that is available online.


                CQB Practice COF

                Target(s): 2 FBI “Q” Type – cardboard or paper spaced 3’ apart edge to edge.

                Distance(s): 3, 5, 7 and 10 yds.

                Times: No set time limit but fired at a practical pace. Begin at a slower pace and progress from there to a faster pace.

                Rounds: 60

                3 yds. – Draw and fire two rds. each target center mass and then one rd. to each head.
                Repeat for a total of 12 rds.

                5 yds. – Draw and fire two rds. each target center mass and then one rd. to each head.
                Repeat starting 90 degrees to the right.
                Repeat starting 90 degrees to the left.
                Total 18 rds.

                7 yds. – Same as the 5 yd. string.

                10 yds. - Draw and fire two rds. each target center mass and then one rd. to each head.
                Repeat for a total of 12 rds.

                The 3 yd. and 5 yd. lines are fired w/o actually using the pistols sights. You are just looking over the pistol at the target and firing as you would in an actual CQB scenario.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RRP View Post
                  Excellent post, JimC, and good contribution to the thread. Do you have any info on, or a link to the COF you use?
                  If I were you, I wouldn't say that too often. There are those here who would disagree with you.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by garyb View Post
                    I practice all the time. Part of IDPA. As an aside, everyone can practice draw dry fire. Laser helps.
                    IMO, a laser sight is all but useless for normal CQB distances. Highly over rated but useful in some situations on some firearms.

                    Many shooters spend more time trying to keep the laser from bouncing around on the target then they do actually shooting.

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                    • #11
                      Good info, JimC. I like a COF that uses multiple threats. I may shoot this course, today.
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                      "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician." -Col Jeff Cooper

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RRP View Post
                        Good info, JimC. I like a COF that uses multiple threats. I may shoot this course, today.
                        Have fun...

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                        • #13
                          That's why I like the the laserlyte cartridge for training it only goes on for about a second when the trigger is pulled simulating a shot fire. Still not live fire but helps the muscle memory and reflexes. This is not saying we will ever need to draw our firearm and also saying the trigger must be pulled but a good skill to have
                          Rest in peace old sailor Mike
                          In Memory of Mom: Standing 4'11" She would say come here so I can hit you as I looked down at her
                          As my Olde buddy Jake said point at the belt buckle and muzzle rise will take care of the rest
                          Live a little learn a lot

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JimC View Post
                            Coming from an LE background and a firearms instructor, drawing from concealed or at least from the holster with an off-duty weapon has come to be the only way I practice, it's the only way that I know.

                            Anyone can stand in front of a target and fire X amount of rounds from a static position and hit the target...I hope anyway.

                            Now that I'm retired (nearly 17 years) I qualify under LEOSA (HR218), I'm still required to draw from a holster firing the COF.

                            The only way I practice with a carry gun is from the holster.

                            This is the main reason that I am opposed to pocket carry, along with others.

                            No one alive using pocket carry could possibly qualify given the times allowed under any LE COF, not to mention a real life situation.

                            Back in the day, officers were required to qualify with their OD gun and drawing from whatever holster they carried it in. Those who used an ankle holster always had a difficult time and some did not make the times and did not qualify, they could NOT carry the gun.

                            There were a lot of ankle holsters for sale.

                            "Train as you fight, you will fight as you train"
                            +1 on this! Only wish I could practice like this more, right now I only get to when taking a defensive pistol class, which is currently twice a year..We do have an outdoor range about 45min away that allows drawing and firing, gonna have to hit this place to get more practice in.

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                            • #15
                              Drawing from conceald

                              Every time I shoot I bring my carry gun and practice drawing from concealment. I load two rounds each in two magazines. At 7 yds I draw, double tap, reload, double tap. After 5 sets of this I work on drawing and firing a NSR. That breaks me of always firing two shots. Between range visits I try to work on draw and dry fire as much as possible. I also try to take one or two defensive pistol classes a year, or a carbine class that integrates pistol.
                              A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

                              Molon Labe

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