"Kahrs can't take the strain" of intense shooting classes

[marshal kane]

That reminds me of the story about the two samurai warriors who were trying to impress each other with their swordsmanship. The first samurai said, "Watch that fly. I'm going to take off his right wing." So drawing his sword, he takes a swing and sure enough the fly hits the ground minus a wing. The second samurai says, "That's nothing, watch this." Drawing his sword, he takes a swing at another fly but the fly just flies away. The first samurai bursts out laughing saying, "You missed!" The second samurai laughs and says, "Like hell, no kids for THAT fly!"

[340pd]

Back to the topic?
I think there is a huge difference between a fighting handgun and one carried or safely stored for self defense. This topic comes up in our basic pistol class all the time. I now ask each of our new to guns shooters, what are you expecting to use a gun for? To those that are timid, physically weak, or seem uninterested in returning to our range to actually understand how a semi auto functions and safely clear malfunctions, I hand them a smaller framed S&W with a set of Crimson Trace laser grips and work from there. The simple manual of arms for a revolver especially one with a laser, "put the dot on the target and drag the trigger rearward until you hear click, click" seems to be understood by everyone.

Yes, I am oversimplifying but I am still amazed when doing my RSO shift, how many experienced shooters have little knowledge of how to correct a malfunctioning semi-auto. The vast majority are small guns of every make. Is one make better than another? I doubt it.
If you actually need the gun, life or death, one second notice, I suspect a malfunction will confuse 99.99% of all shooters enough to get them killed.

BTW, Brussel sprouts, melted cheese, and bacon. A++++

[Baklash]

"I suspect a malfunction will confuse 99.99% of all shooters enough to get them killed."

Especially with the adrenaline flowing like Niagara Falls. Hopefully all that practice and muscle memory will kick in. Of course that same 99.9% won't have muscle memory due to no practice or the wrong kind of practice. "What the heck, I just pulled the trigger and got no bang. What's wrong with this dang gun. I know one thing, I'll never buy this brand again." Wonder if I can get my money back? Oh Oh, forgot where I was. Uhh, THAT HURT!"

[jocko]

I love Brussel sprouts for the gas that they give me. Keeps unwanted company away.

U ONLY WISH YOU HAD COJMPANY. Just sayin but heh blame it o thge russel sprouts, if that please u...

[jocko]

The Kimber SOLO....Won't shoot anything BUT +p JHP rounds and is finicky with which brand works....No range ammo will shoot in one

and my point is I think iimbr even states in their manual or somewhere that +P only. I owner should have no complaint , unless he can't read. I like tyhe trigger on the kimber, basicaly a single action semi, if you study it more. Its damn near 905 cocked and ready to go. Sure wou7ldnt want it in my pocket but it outta bne one accurate semi, with that trigger setup.

[muggsy]

And this from an Army Reserve Typing instructor.

[JimBianchi]

About 8 years ago I took my MK9 to an intermediate/advanced pistol course locally.

We ran the guns hard, 200rds in around an hour, hour and half or so. I had 6, 6rd mags and the Kahr ran perfect.

I was the biggest guy and I shot the smallest gun.

Also the only gun that never jammed, ever.

I am an experienced shooter with a too many carry guns, but I train with the gun I carry. I now carry either my CM9 or my G26. Both are all well maintained and shoot perfectly.

It's more about the shooter than the gun, always has been, always will be.

[downtownv]

Too Many Haters; where's the Love?
Certainly, opinions are like rectums everybody got one...

[muggsy]

I practice the Tap, Rack, Throw drill daily just to stay sharp. I carry a back-up gun for just such an occasion.

[RonW]

Just trying to stay on topic here, but I used my Kahr CW40 in weekly local IDPA club matches & it has not failed me once. There is also another gentleman who uses his CW45 and not once did his pistol jam up or otherwise failed in any way... With over 2k rounds fired, not one stovepipe, or FTF or magazine poping out that I read about on none other than...online. I've already replaced the recoil spring as required by Kahr when I hit the 2k mark and I replaced the front sight with a Trijicon night sight. My CW40 is also my EDC. Pretty much everyone that I know personally, not online, but personally really like Kahr pistols and how they shoot. When I tell people that I also carry a K9 w/night sights, their eyes light up. Me, or people that I know who carry Kahr pistols have not experienced any realibility issues. I drop my mags on concrete floor, tossed them in the grass. Havent had one break yet.

But then of course, what you read online is probably very different then the real world....

[Armybrat]

Kahrs can't take the strain" of intense shooting classes

Neither could Johnny Ringo when he met his huckleberry.

But then again, my Kahrs will never meet Val Kilmer.

[muggsy]

I qualified for my CCW with my CM9 shooting a 100 round course of fire with zero malfunctions.

[Bawanna]

My PM45 nearly straight out of the box after an internal inspection but zero prep went 350 rounds first range trip.

No boggles, misfeeds, or issues. And none since.

[Handy]

There are certainly enough known issues with certain Kahr models for a trainer to make some general comments about the brand. Anyone who would be so bothered about those kind of comments that they couldn't stay in the class to learn probably wasn't ready to learn anything in the first place.

I think the K9 was a pretty neato design. I'd probably have to put at least 500 trouble free rounds downrange on something like a PM40 before I'd carry it, and I wouldn't tolerate any peening or distortion.

[Bawanna]

I generally require 500 trouble free rounds before I carry any gun. Use to be 1000 but I've lowered my standards due to the ammo cost and seemingly limited time.

I do know a bunch, officers included who shoot a couple mags, do a minimal qual and even with minor issues they carry the thing. Usually a back up, sometimes an off duty gun. Guess if it works for them ok. Not for me.