Should a BG be shot

[berettabone]

Whatever you should choose to do, under any given circumstance, may I suggest........................................... ...........................There was a guy down here, a few years back, who was standing in line at a grocery store. 2 guys, one with a sawed off, started demanding money. A guy in line had his Steyr 9mm on his side. He waited until the guy started getting agitated, and waving this sawed off around. That's when he decided to use his firearm. He was worried that this guy was just going to start unloading this sawed off. Problem was, besides the crook yelling, it was pretty quiet. He didn't have one in the bank, and had to rack the slide while he was standing in line, without anyone hearing it, especially sawed off fool. Message..............it's tough enough to protect yourself when the SHTF..........don't make it any more difficult, and keep one in the bank. Can you imagine what he felt like, trying to rack that slide as quietly as he could? I would try and avoid it........................................

[CJB]

oh hell yah +1 +1 +1

[muggsy]

I'd do what I've long been conditioned to do. With a clear shot, stk....mebbe with a warning first if it be safe.

All of my warning shots are aimed at center mass.

[kwh]

I'd do what I've long been conditioned to do. With a clear shot, stk....mebbe with a warning first if it be safe.

Can't remember where I read it, but there was list of reasons why a warning shot is never a good idea. Some of them to the best of my memory:
You might be identified as the BG.
You were the one that started or escalated the incident.
Your bullet always hits Something.
You lose the element of surprise.

Further discussion is encouraged, pro or con.

[Bawanna]

No warning shots or verbal warnings from me.

I've been told numerous times by officers and also by Tico, when it's time to shoot, shoot,......don't talk.

[ltxi]

All of my warning shots are aimed at center mass.

I don't do warning shots! I said warning...that would be verbal.

[ltxi]

All of my warning shots are aimed at center mass.

I don't do warning shots! I said warning...that would be verbal, and that only if prudent.

[Allen]

I think about a situation like this every time I sit down in a restaurant (and try to always face the door) or walk into a quick trip. Really getting parinoid in my old age, but it doesn't help any seeing this scenerio on the Oklahoma City TV news practically every evening.

[Bawanna]

I've read too many Louis Lamour books to stare into a campfire or sit with my back to the door.

[Planedude]

I will agree with those here that point out every situation will always go different. Only you can decide in that moment what the right action is and the truth is this: Others will decide later if you were right... by their own standards.

The local ABC affiliate WFAA channel 8 out of Dallas did a very good series on the subject last week. Brett Shipp is their big investigative reporter and his series was very honest, well thought out and guided with LE professionals that seemed to want to know the same answers.
Can a real average concealed carrying good guy do the right thing when the SHTF? I will try and link the stories here, but I wish this was up on youtube or something...

Each part is about five min long.

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/2016/...rt-1/78655818/

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local...rt-2/78718008/

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local...king/78766250/

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/featu...arms/78813126/

If you have just a few minuets (and if I linked them right) do check these out, I found the stories to be thought provoking, instead of just pissing me off. Several of these "Myth of the good guy with a gun" stories have shown up lately. All the rest wrote the script to come to the (lefty) "right conclusion" that the NRA is all wrong. Grrrrrr...
I can handle the unvarnished truth, but don't BS it and try to sell it to me as "News".

Peace

[muggsy]

Nice links. The first thing that I read each month in the American Rifleman is The Armed Citizen. The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun IS a good guy with a gun.

[Planedude]

I think about a situation like this every time I sit down in a restaurant (and try to always face the door) or walk into a quick trip. Really getting parinoid in my old age, but it doesn't help any seeing this scenerio on the Oklahoma City TV news practically every evening.

I've read too many Louis Lamour books to stare into a campfire or sit with my back to the door.

I seldom get the chance to sit facing the door. My (unarmed) wife is a fanatic about sitting facing the door and tends to make a squawk about it. I still feel I'm okay though as I read faces and stay aware of what's up in the room, even as my lovely wife is oblivious to the door while yakking or tapping on the iPhone...
In most eateries there will be a focal point at the register. That's where the crooks figure the cash is, so when I am not seeing the door, I always arrange myself to see the registers where most crooks are going to go.

And yes, I do get that is little help if the BG ain't there for a robbery... but what do you do?

[kwh]

^ Yes Planedude I have the same exact dilemma.

[b4uqzme]

^^^ you just do the best you can at all times. Not everything will be perfect so you just stay aware despite your physical surroundings. It would be my luck I would position myself looking at the restaurant door and the BG would come through the kitchen.

[Bawanna]

That's a Bingo right there. The best laid plans and the bad guy isn't gonna follow the script.

Be kind, be polite, and have a plan to kill everyone you meet. Somebody wrote that, I thought it was a bit extreme but it's making more and more sense all the time.