well well well another school mass shooting...

[ltxi]

Yeah, why give the other two deputies pause but not Peterson. He could have been told to stand down or ??? Your thoughts?

Perhaps should reread what I wrote??

[ltxi]

Me too, usually part way through the trip 75 miles from the next rest stop.

I think I need an intestinal transplant.

Just don't take your Miralax in the morning when road tripping. That be what I don't do.

[knkali]

ya know its bad when you are afraid to fart

[ltxi]

ya know its bad when you are afraid to fart

yeppers

[johnh]

A first responder now saying he was ordered not to go in. The plot sickens....

https://www.infowars.com/parkland-fi...e-saved-lives/

Also here:

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/26/br...-not-to-go-in/

[340pd]

John,
Just lawyers doing their thing.
Sheriff Israel needs to go NOW!

[WMac19]

Sure wouldn't be surprised if that's the case, and it's along the lines of what I have (with many others) been saying since we learned that Peterson wasn't the only one.

I've worked with less than brave officers, extremely brave and the middle of the road representation of that particular trait. I've seen cowardice, an officer here, an officer there retreat or not physically engage when the situation demands the exact opposite.

But I've never seen nor will I accept some assumed collective cowardice among four officers all at once. I just cannot imagine that happening except under the burden or pressure of previous policy or current order.

Sure we can all say that they should have gone in anyway and in the case of premeditated policy, I'd be certain to have fractured that one and entered.

But playing devil's advocate here, if I received the surprising order to maintain position absent of some nonsensical former policy, this unorthodox command may lead me to believe that there was a damned good reason for it. Sniper(s), explosives or any other unforseen danger/threat toward students (ie: hostages/barricaded perp stating all will die if they see one uniform, etc).

With shots ringing out and the threat perceived to be immediate and ongoing, all that may be cast aside as we instead choose to enter and engage but if I'm being honest, absent some idiotic previous policy, such an order may have caused myself some tragic hesitation.

The timing of the event as we know it would dictate that my listed scenario couldn't have happened, I only mean to highlight that in a SHTF situation, anything that may create pause is obviously deadly.

[Bawanna]

It's important to remember that Law Enforcement is one of the few trades where you can do everything right and by the book and still be fired.

You can be fired for doing, you can be fired for not doing.

Like living in a glass house and the whole world (now days especially the lawyers and leftist media) is watching your every move.

But it's still a job and many love to do it. Many would follow orders if for no other reason than to keep the job regardless if their chief or supervisor is a complete illiterate moron that don't know squat about Law Enforcement.

Then there's me and JohnH that just don't give a ****.

[knkali]

Sure wouldn't be surprised if that's the case, and it's along the lines of what I have (with many others) been saying since we learned that Peterson wasn't the only one.

I've worked with less than brave officers, extremely brave and the middle of the road representation of that particular trait. I've seen cowardice, an officer here, an officer there retreat or not physically engage when the situation demands the exact opposite.

But I've never seen nor will I accept some assumed collective cowardice among four officers all at once. I just cannot imagine that happening except under the burden or pressure of previous policy or current order.

Sure we can all say that they should have gone in anyway and in the case of premeditated policy, I'd be certain to have fractured that one and entered.

But playing devil's advocate here, if I received the surprising order to maintain position absent of some nonsensical former policy, this unorthodox command may lead me to believe that there was a damned good reason for it. Sniper(s), explosives or any other unforseen danger/threat toward students (ie: hostages/barricaded perp stating all will die if they see one uniform, etc).

With shots ringing out and the threat perceived to be immediate and ongoing, all that may be cast aside as we instead choose to enter and engage but if I'm being honest, absent some idiotic previous policy, such an order may have caused myself some tragic hesitation.

The timing of the event as we know it would dictate that my listed scenario couldn't have happened, I only mean to highlight that in a SHTF situation, anything that may create pause is obviously deadly.

well said top notch post

[ltxi]

It's important to remember that Law Enforcement is one of the few trades where you can do everything right and by the book and still be fired.

You can be fired for doing, you can be fired for not doing.

Like living in a glass house and the whole world (now days especially the lawyers and leftist media) is watching your every move.

But it's still a job and many love to do it. Many would follow orders if for no other reason than to keep the job regardless if their chief or supervisor is a complete illiterate moron that don't know squat about Law Enforcement.

Then there's me and JohnH that just don't give a ****.

What is this give a **** thing of which you speak??

[berettabone]

Believe me, they aren't the only 2 members of that club.............................................. .......................

[Bawanna]

Welcome to the club.

[JohnR]

I can join that club when my kids are grown up. Till then, someone's gotta be the breadwinner.

[knkali]

still got a damn to give...damn

[DM123]

A first responder now saying he was ordered not to go in. The plot sickens....

https://www.infowars.com/parkland-fi...e-saved-lives/

Also here:

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/26/br...-not-to-go-in/

Worked for years as a county employed Paramedic. This has been common for unarmed emergency medical people for at least 30 years.