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    I`ve read many articles concerning 9mm vs. .45cal and the battle rages on and on with the edge going to the .45.This comes as no surprise to me but it has always seemed like an apple and oranges type of debate. I know that the 9mm is looked upon with disdain by many in the military but I believe that it`s because the military is bound by the rules to carry only FMJ ammo.
    I personally have never felt under-gunned when I carry a 9 because of the advancements in the manufacture of self defense ammunition. How about you? Are you comfortable with the stopping ability of the 9mm?
    In the area in which I now reside,when I`m placed in a group of four or five guys,I`m known as "the smart one".God help me.

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    Originally posted by Dietrich View Post
    I`ve read many articles concerning 9mm vs. .45cal and the battle rages on and on with the edge going to the .45.This comes as no surprise to me but it has always seemed like an apple and oranges type of debate. I know that the 9mm is looked upon with disdain by many in the military but I believe that it`s because the military is bound by the rules to carry only FMJ ammo.
    I personally have never felt under-gunned when I carry a 9 because of the advancements in the manufacture of self defense ammunition. How about you? Are you comfortable with the stopping ability of the 9mm?
    Give me a PM9 and 7 rounds of 124 Gr. Gold Dot +P and I feel all warm and fuzzy!!!

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    • #3
      I was looking at a book last night on WW2. They used fmj. The germans used 9mm in their MP-40 and MP-38 machine guns and their lugers. In the book, there was a marine holding a 1911 standing over a dead japanese.

      Seems to me the fmj / hp debate is just as silly as the caliber wars. Anyone seen the .50GI? Now that's better than a .45 right? The .50GI is the new "king of the hill."

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      • #4
        I agree, Hitler wiped out half of Europe with 9mm's.

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        • #5
          I've only ever carried 9mm and do so by choice, not default. The gun is small enough so I can ALWAYS have it on my person. We've all read stories of high round count and big caliber STILL not stopping crazed junky/zombie people. The gun I always have is the one I'll count on. If, God forbid, it doesn't do the job I need to get done, then it's just my turn to go.

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          • #6
            99% of the time I carry a 9mm and don't think twice about it, when I'm feeling real manly I'll carry a .45 until the wife gives me my opinion for the day.

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            • #7
              Not necessarily safe....

              ....but adequately armed.
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              • #8
                In my decade of CCW, 9mms have been my main carry guns. I've never felt "undergunned."

                In the debate of 9mm vs .40 vs .45: I find hollow-points make the arguments moot. I choose 9mms because I find them more reliable.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by zena View Post
                  The gun I always have is the one I'll count on. If, God forbid, it doesn't do the job I need to get done, then it's just my turn to go.
                  That says it for me. I personally carry a 40, but would likely carry a 9 if it was as small as my K40. Right now, the 9 I have is a Taurus 92, and it's kind of big.
                  When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are safe.
                  Luke 11:21

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MattTheKnife View Post
                    .......In the debate of 9mm vs .40 vs .45: I find hollow-points make the arguments moot........
                    I fully agree....current bullet/cartridge technology has made a big difference. So have the guns. After maybe 20 years of shunning the nine (except for a S&W 940) in favor of 1911's and .357s when I could carry them and .38 snubbies and Colt .380s when I couldn't, the PM9 and modern cartridges brought me back into the fold big time.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by border bandit32 View Post
                      Give me a PM9 and 7 rounds of 124 Gr. Gold Dot +P and I feel all warm and fuzzy!!!
                      Exactly!
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                      • #12
                        9 mm Safe!!

                        Originally posted by Dietrich View Post
                        I`ve read many articles concerning 9mm vs. .45cal and the battle rages on and on with the edge going to the .45.This comes as no surprise to me but it has always seemed like an apple and oranges type of debate. I know that the 9mm is looked upon with disdain by many in the military but I believe that it`s because the military is bound by the rules to carry only FMJ ammo.
                        I personally have never felt under-gunned when I carry a 9 because of the advancements in the manufacture of self defense ammunition. How about you? Are you comfortable with the stopping ability of the 9mm?
                        Yeah, I do! Shoot, with Cor Bon ammo one can do some real damage. The 45 is bigger and slower, but with the right faster 9 mm ammo, you can still do plenty of damage to stop the attacker. I have a friend who had to, and did it with one shot. Now he is haunted by the incident -- long story.
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                        • #13
                          Seeing how no round is a guaranteed one shot stop and placement is key. Yes, I feel just fine with the 9mm for my carry round. I carry the Gold Dot 124 +p in my CW9 and have on confidence problems at all.

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                          • #14

                            I feel better having alittle more lead, and alittle more push....especially now, that our society has overfeed some of the population ... and, if it's cold out side...I'm thinking, I need something ... that'll get thru all that toilet paper...we call jackets and coats.
                            Besides, I like the full size .40 and .45s with tha' 13 rd. mags. // Feels like a good shooting tool and/or hammer..in my hand !
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                            • #15
                              They say "bigger is better" but I would not want to be hit by either a 9mm or a .45. An interesting statistic to look up is what is the most predominent cartridge used in deaths caused by firearms. Last time I checked (which was a while ago) it was .25 caliber! Yep! You guessed it! the old "Saturday night special".

                              I carry based upon what size gun I can get away with (considering what I am wearing). This ranges from my 22 cal NAA derringer to my 1911 Commander and a few calibers in between. I look at it this way.... What type of person am I most likely going to run in to where I will need my gun? Probably will not be someone in full swat gear (unless the Lefties get their way) ;-)

                              I do not hang out in bars, street corners late at night, or in bad neighborhoods. Someone could break in to my house but probably would not be a pro criminal. If I was a cop and in areas where trouble (read as drugged out whacko with a gun) was a high probability, then caliber would become more important to me

                              I think the main thing is... to have "something" in the event you need to protect yourself or your family.

                              My little P380 does a fine job for me most of the time.

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