What changes would you make to Kahrs...

[melissa5]

sounds like Melissa needs to check out the Kimber Solo.

surv

No, I read that the trigger pull is 7 lbs on the Solo. For what's on the market right now, I think the PM9 is the best.

[Bawanna]

Melissa being a recent 1911 convert is naturally and expectedly enamored with the awesome 1911 trigger. I too don't care much for DAO and really don't like DA/SA. I used to but once I went to Para's LDA I found I couldn't shoot em very good any more.

I do get along fine with the kahr trigger transitioning between it and a 1911. I personally would not care much for a glock type trigger either, too short and unforgiving. To me the only real downfall to the kahr trigger is the long reset and I think we're your staring down the elephant you probably won't even notice it anyhow.

Far as finding the perfect firearm, I think I came as close as I'll get with my Cbob. To me its just close to perfect.

[Bill K]

Good idea CJB on the Gutter Snipe sights.

Curious as to why you guys would want this change made to the Kahr. What do you guys see as the pros and cons vs. the current Kahr sights or 3 dot for that matter.

Thanks,
Bill K.

[Bawanna]

Curious as to why you guys would want this change made to the Kahr. What do you guys see as the pros and cons vs. the current Kahr sights or 3 dot for that matter.

Thanks,
Bill K.

Many like that type of sight for a pocket gun so theres nothing to hang up. Many prefer kahrs because they have real sights so I guess you can't have it both ways. I suppose they could offer both versions but I personally doubt the gutter sight would be a hot mover.

Many don't like the kahr sights but they work very well for me. I like the XS sight system which many people don't care for either so again I guess it's all personal preference.

[melissa5]

I really like the "dot the i" sights on the PM9.

[kb2wji]

Make all models all metal, but as light as the PM series. And I want 3 or 4 more rounds of capacity without going double stack, and without making the grip longer. And while ur at it, please bag all my groceries in one bag, but dont make it heavy.

[Rainman48314]

Ditto

"Better out the door QC, shooting ready guns. All this file here, sand there, squeeze mag in a vise, rack 500 times. Not everyone likes to fiddle..."
[Let me add that I no longer own a vise, have never owned a caliper micrometer and shy away from 85% of DIY jobs]

I'd like a 6# SA trigger and a thumb safety (see Kimber Solo or Sig P238).

EASIER disassembly

Better pricing (a P380 needs to be more tempting, especially since new owners will need to tinker and shoot lot$ of ammo before the gun is ready to carry).

Kahr always picking up shipping costs when there really is a problem.

[CS534]

-Better magazine design, more traditional loading and no nose dives or rounds that move
-The slide release to chamber around is quirky
-Flush fit mags
-Less agressive checkering on the front strap
-Better quality control..after spending so much on the gun there should be no reason that it is not ready out of the box-no prepping
-Lower the prices
-Lifetime warranty

[G3709]

I like to have shorter trigger reset, t.a.s. style sight option instead of guttersnipe sighting system that looks good in theory but does not really work with every eyesight (I have guttersnipe on my ASP but learned to point and shoot), better magazine design so cartridge would not move forward because of recoil, add external safety as option, just like the PM9 MA, and better quality control.

[ripley16]

I'm a little surprised no one mentioned;

a rail under the dust cover to attach their favorite light or laser.

a decocker. I'd like that myself.

more calibers offered. A P22 or K22 would be great.

suppressor ready barrels. That could be an aftermarket, alternate manufacturer item I guess.

[cgarcop]

1-better quality control. A $700 gun shouldnt have to be shipped back to the manufacturer 2x to made right. And along that note, eliminate the shipping fee for warranty work.

2-Flush fit mags. kahr pistols are a thing of beauty. Well designed and compact. like gems. The ill fitting mags give it a sloppy look. more thought could have gone into that aspect.

Aside from the mags, which is just cosmetic, i wouldnt change a thing about the pistols themselves. An all black CM9 would be nice.

[OldLincoln]

I agree with the quality control being #1. I think it is improving, but needs fluff & buff stations for components that rub together & clean out the striker channel.

Once that is done, fit the mags better, closing the gap, make them drop freely, and not loose rounds in the pocket.

I'm guessing most complaints we see from new owners would go away with these two items.

[Jitterbug]

I agree with the quality control being #1. I think it is improving, but needs fluff & buff stations for components that rub together & clean out the striker channel.

Once that is done, fit the mags better, closing the gap, make them drop freely, and not loose rounds in the pocket.

I'll second the above.

Regarding the trigger.

Sorry Melissa... please don't fix it, leave it alone.

I'm a big time fan and user of the 1911, and I love light triggers, all of mine have them, but for the PM9 and what it's designed for, the current PM9 trigger is perfect. I transition back and forth between PM9 and 1911 without issue all the time.

Next perfect trigger in a sub gun, pocket pistol is the S&W J frame, but this takes time to master and in my opinion the Kahr system is superior, as it is in many ways to the J-frame.

[rwblue01]

#1. Quality control needs to be fixed. My PM9 will be going back to the factory on my dime. So right now I am not happy with Kahr. You will probably see me bitching about Kahrs QC/QA on multiple forums.
#2. They have a magazine problem. I expect my gun to run with ANY factory mag.
#3. I would like gills along the entire length of the slide because sometime I don’t grab the slide at the right spot.
#4. I don’t like the end of the main spring. The little wire that can poke people is not necessary. They need to make both ends the same.
#5. The front of the magazine well needs to be beveled like the sides.
#6. I like the glock trigger system. I like the glock safety on the trigger. I don’t think they can do this for patent reasons.
#7. I would like a shorter trigger pull. I am not asking for much here, but my big hands and this gun….. A quarter of an inch would really help.

It is the details that make me question if this gun is worth the money.

[Rainman48314]

patent?

#1. Quality control needs to be fixed. My PM9 will be going back to the factory on my dime. So right now I am not happy with Kahr. You will probably see me bitching about Kahrs QC/QA on multiple forums.
#2. They have a magazine problem. I expect my gun to run with ANY factory mag.
#3. I would like gills along the entire length of the slide because sometime I don’t grab the slide at the right spot.
#4. I don’t like the end of the main spring. The little wire that can poke people is not necessary. They need to make both ends the same.
#5. The front of the magazine well needs to be beveled like the sides.
#6. I like the glock trigger system. I like the glock safety on the trigger. I don’t think they can do this for patent reasons.
#7. I would like a shorter trigger pull. I am not asking for much here, but my big hands and this gun….. A quarter of an inch would really help.

It is the details that make me question if this gun is worth the money.

If Ruger can copy the Glock trigger safety, and M&P devise their own hinged version, Kahr shouldn't have a problem. I still prefer a 1911 type setup with a thumb safety.