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  • #76
    Originally posted by OldLincoln View Post
    Great idea!! using a punch through the centered hole, you could push the striker spring forward enough to clear the housing plate and you could just ride the plate up and out.
    Now there's something I would want right in front of my eye or cheek... a back plate weakened with a hole in it! What if there's a ruptured primer!? Stuff happens!

    All you need to use is a stout jeweler's screwdriver to push that pin to the right in far enough to slide the back plate down... without letting all of that stuff behind the striker and the extractor train go flying. With the slide supported on the table and a paper towel, it's a two-hander!

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    • #77
      Originally posted by ripley16 View Post
      Here's a link to a photo of "gutter" sights on a NAA Guardian. Can't get any lower a profile than this!

      http://www.naaminis.com/pix/gutsightrear.jpg

      Dang it, I have to wait again till I'm home tonight to check that link. Can't get to it from work. sigh....
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      • #78
        didn't actually do it yet. Was going to, but then had the frame issue. What the plan was, is to modify the rear plate of the slide, so you dont have to fiddly fart and grow two spare hands in order get it apart. Involves a precisely centered hole in the plate and also involves a new striker spring guide, with a rearward projection that fits the hole. Use the slide stop to press it, and magazine spring to press the rear extractor spring pin, and the plate would come off very easily.
        Great thinking outside of the box, but your solution sounds like it still requires extra hands. Pushing in two pins while holding the slide sounds like three hands, and moving the back panel may require a forth... that is if you could move it enough with the slide stop inserted.

        IMHO, the only tool needed is a modified "Ripley Gizmo", with a flat, chisel like point on one end, to facilitate sliding behind the spring guide, a proper length, then a flat, but not chisel shaped, bend on the other end. Kahr probably would be adverse to such a tool, but it would work like a charm. Then you would only need one tool to capture the spring, hold it off the back plate and allow you to depress the rear pin with whatever punch or tool you use and easily slip the plate off of the slide.

        This gizmo pictured is only a bent coathanger, but it shows how the tool works to hold the spring until you've removed the back plate. I still need the jewler screwdriver to get behind the spring and pull it away from the back. With the chisel end, you could eliminate needing the screwdriver.
        Judging by today's left wing, looks like Senator Joe McCarthy was right after all.

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        • #79
          I think every Kahr should come with a free, lifetime supply of quality ammunition!!! And this should be offered retroactively to current owners.
          An armed society is a polite society.

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          • #80
            Ripley hit my only suggestion with his first post.

            A true DA with double strike.

            If you have a double action pistol, might as well be true DA! It's not like Kahr is using a glock-like halfcock, so it wouldn't change the trigger pull much if at all.

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            • #81
              i sopmetimes wonder why they calls ome guns true double action. I understand the principal butr double action had tocme from revolvers and whenyou get a misfire ornothing, and u pull the trigger u not on the same round, it just moves the cylinder to the next round. to me kind of a misnomer to me, bvut heh its good advertisng. I always felt if I get a misfire why try to beat the primer to death, do the tap, rack and band drill and get that worthless ass round out of the gun..
              . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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              • #82
                Because the vast majority of the time, the round will fire on that second strike. I got ahold of some cheap ammo a while ago that wasn't firing all of the time on the first strike in my SW99 (which does have second strike). Second one would almost always do it.

                Plus it makes dry fire practice a lot easier.

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                • #83
                  i'll buy the dry fire theory, but will pass on the other..
                  . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by wyntrout View Post
                    Now there's something I would want right in front of my eye or cheek... a back plate weakened with a hole in it! What if there's a ruptured primer!? Stuff happens!

                    All you need to use is a stout jeweler's screwdriver to push that pin to the right in far enough to slide the back plate down... without letting all of that stuff behind the striker and the extractor train go flying. With the slide supported on the table and a paper towel, it's a two-hander!

                    Wynn
                    The back or the striker spring guide is a reound flat deal similar to the recoil spring. It sits in a nook in the rear plate and must be pushed forward to clear it or you cannot get the plate off. Using the hanger device is by far the easiest way to remove the striker assembly, but without that it's more than 2 hands can comfortably handle. I know because I couldn't put my hands on mine the last time I cleaned it out. CJB's idea would eliminate the need for one tool in the process.

                    I don't know that a redesign of the back plate would necessarily weaken it. I do agree that simply drilling a hole might do it.

                    As long as the "tool" is in use it doesn't get much easier that that, but if Kahr were re-engineering the design, it could be something to look into.
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                    • #85
                      Internal, guide-rod laser.
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                      • #86
                        Because the vast majority of the time, the round will fire on that second strike.

                        I trust the tap, rack and bang drill better. "vast majority" is an unknown for me.
                        . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                        • #87
                          I have thought of what cjb has brought up also and a so so smallhole would be all that is needed, would not weaken anything but I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it holds true for that area to. It is not something that one takes down hardly at all, andfor me personally I have not taken my PM9 slide down in over 30,000 rounds. I can spray clean it perfectly through the clean out hole, so although a nice idea, , certainly not needed at all.. a ruptured primer could not blow back thorugh that hole as the striker spring guide back plate would be resting right against that small paper clip type hole.
                          . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by jocko View Post
                            I can spray clean it perfectly through the clean out hole, so although a nice idea, , certainly not needed at all.
                            How do you know if you don't look. Only the phantom knows what evil lurks in the heart of the striker channel without looking.
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                            • #89
                              The only improvement I would make to Kahr is this: make it so it wipes my ass. That is all that's needed.
                              Attitude: it takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile...and 3 for proper trigger squeeze.

                              The olive branch is considered a symbol of peace, and good will. Last time I checked, it's still a switch.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by jlottmc View Post
                                The only improvement I would make to Kahr is this: make it so it wipes my ass. That is all that's needed.
                                You could try, but keep your finger off the trigger.

                                This would work better though...

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