.45 distance?

[MERCTECH]

If aiming level, approx. how far will it travel. Just wondering how far a jhp will travel if you missed your target. Ive heard the .45 wont go as far as a 9mm because of size. Dont know if its true but if it was would it make the .45 better for self defense. Whats your guys opinion?

[jocko]

we should do a field test.

u stand at 100 yards and I will aim at ur head, and we will take bets to see if it hits ur head, chest, nuts, knees foot

I bet u will be talking in a higher pitch!!

to answer ur question as u can see I haven't a clue

[Barth]

If aiming level, approx. how far will it travel. Just wondering how far a jhp will travel if you missed your target. Ive heard the .45 wont go as far as a 9mm because of size. Dont know if its true but if it was would it make the .45 better for self defense. Whats your guys opinion?

Somebody is going to look this up - LOL.
Generally lighter faster bullets have a flatter trajectory.
My 125 grain 357 Sig is crazy flat running.

So a 860 fps 230 grain is going to fall more at distance than a supersonic 115 9MM (especially +P+).
I think its the velocity more than anything else.

Basically the world is your back stop.
You need to practice. And be confident of your target before you fire.
Don't think either is better or worse for SD.

[MERCTECH]

we should do a field test.

u stand at 100 yards and I will aim at ur head, and we will take bets to see if it hits ur head, chest, nuts, knees foot

I bet u will be talking in a higher pitch!!

to answer ur question as u can see I haven't a clue

Lets see I still need my nuts so anywhere else is acceptable. lol

[MERCTECH]

Somebody is going to look this up - LOL.
Generally lighter faster bullets have a flatter trajectory.
My 125 grain 357 Sig is crazy flat running.

So a 860 fps 230 grain is going to fall more at distance than a supersonic 115 9MM (especially +P+).
I think its the velocity more than anything else.

Basically the world is your back stop.
You need to practice. And be confident of your target before you fire.
Don't think either is better or worse for SD.

I agree I definetely need more practice,me and some friends where just bs about missing targets when one piped up about the diference in size.

[Barth]

Cartridge (Wb@MV) Bullet BC 25 yds. 50 yds. 100 yds. MPBR (yds.)
.221 Fireball (50 at 2600) .238 +0.7" +1.8" +2.9 237
.25 ACP (50 at 760) .116 +2.9" +2.8" -10.5" 80
.30 Carbine (105 at 1600) .150 +1.4" +2.7" +1.8" 139
.32 ACP (71 at 905) .118 +2.5" +2.9" -5.4" 90
.32 S&W Long (100 at 705) .167 +3.1" +2.6" -13.4" 75
.32 H&R Mag. (85 at 1100) .145 +2.1" +3.0" -1.7" 106
.32-20 Win. (100 at 1000) .170 +2.2" +2.9" -2.8" 98
.380 ACP (90 at 1000) .099 +2.3" +2.9" -3.5" 96
9mm Makarov (95 at 975) .100 +2.3" +2.9" -3.8" 95
9mm Luger (115 at 1135) .140 +1.9" +2.9" -1.7" 107
9mm Luger (124 at 1100) .145 +2.1" +3.0" -1.7" 106
9mm Luger (147 at 990) .212 +2.1" +2.7" -3.2" 98
.38 Super (125 at 1240) .145 +1.9" +3.0" -0.3" 115
.357 SIG (125 at 1350) .145 +1.7" +2.9" +0.4" 122
.38 Spec. (125 at 850) .151 +2.4" +2.6" -7.1" 85
.38 Spec. (140 at 800) .169 +2.6" +2.8" +-8.3" 82
.38 Spec. (158 at 760) .139 +3.1" +2.7" -10.1" 79
.38 Spec. +P (110 at 1000) .131 +2.2" +3.0" -3.4" 98
.38 Spec. +P (125 at 950) .151 +2.3" +2.9" -4.0" 95
.38 Spec. +P (158 at 890) .139 +2.6" +3.0" -5.5" 90
.357 Mag. (110 at 1300) .131 +1.8" +2.9" 0.0" 117
.357 Mag. (125 at 1235) .151 +1.9" +3.0" -0.3" 115
.357 Mag. (125 at 1450) .151 +1.6" +2.8" +1.1" 129
.357 Mag. (140 at 1000) .169 +2.2" +2.9" -3.1" 99
.357 Mag. (140 at 1400) .169 +1.6" +2.8" +0.9" 127
.357 Mag. (158 at 1250) .206 +1.8" +3.0" +0.1" 119
.357 Mag. (180 at 1180) .230 +1.9" +2.9" -0.4" 115
.40 S&W (135 at 1190) .093 +2.0" +2.9" -1.7" 106
.40 S&W (155 at 1180) .137 +2.0" +3.0" -0.8" 111
.40 S&W (180 at 950) .164 +2.3" +2.9" -4.2" 95
10mm Auto (155 at 1300) .137 +1.8" +2.9" 0.0" 119
10mm Auto (180 at 1150) .164 +2.0" +3.0" -1.1" 110
.41 Rem. Mag. (210 at 1300) .182 +1.7" +2.8" +0.2" 120
.44 Spec. (240 at 750) .182 +3.1" +2.6" -9.3" 78
.44 Rem. Mag. (200 at 1000) .122 +2.3" +2.9" -3.3" 98
.44 Rem. Mag. (200 at 1295) .122 +1.4" +2.8" +0.3" 121
.44 Rem. Mag. (225 at 1450) .146 +1.6" +2.8" +1.1" 129
.44 Rem. Mag. (240 at 1144) .205 +1.7" +3.1" +/- 0" 118
.44 Rem. Mag. (240 at 1172) .205 +1.6" +3.0" +0.1" 120
.44 Rem. Mag. (240 at 1200) .205 +1.6" +3.0" +0.5" 122
.44 Rem. Mag. (265 at 1300) .189 +1.8" +2.9" +0.5" 123
.44 Rem. Mag. (300 at 1150) .245 +2.0" +2.9" -0.7" 112
.45 ACP (185 at 1000) .109 +2.2" +2.8" -3.7" 96
.45 ACP (200 at 975) .138 +2.3" +3.0" -3.8" 97
.45 ACP (230 at 850) .195 +2.6" +2.5" -6.9" 88
.45 Colt (200 at 1000) .138 +2.2" +2.9" -3.5" 98
.45 Colt (225 at 960) .158 +2.2" +2.9" -3.9" 95
.45 Colt (250 at 860) .138 +2.5" +2.8" -6.9" 86
.45 Win. Mag. (260 at 1200) .183 +1.8" +2.9" -0.6" 113
.454 Casull (260 at 1300) .183 +1.7" +2.8" +0.2" 120
.454 Casull (260 at 1800) .183 +1.2" +2.5" +2.5" 159
.454 Casull (300 at 1625) .199 +1.4" +2.7" +2.1" 148
.475 Linebaugh (400 at 1300) .182 +1.7" +2.8" +0.2" 120
.480 Ruger (325 at 1350) .150 +1.7" +2.9" +0.6" 123
.50 AE (325 at 1400) .149 +1.6" +2.8" +0.8" 126
.50 S&W Mag. (325 at 1600) .149 +1.4" +2.7" +1.8" 139

[wayneo1]

Oh man thats just too much info, just dont miss the target or use a bigger one.
Math has never been a strong suit.

[Bawanna]

It's all a Fig Newton Relatively Watson. Weight is a factor, heavy drops faster than light. Speed is a big factor regardless of weight but a light fast will go further than a heavy fast.

So in summary based on the coalition of relativity, mass, volume, ball protective inflammatories, yes. The 45 is definitely the better defensive round.



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[Barth]

It's all a Fig Newton Relatively Watson. Weight is a factor, heavy drops faster than light. Speed is a big factor regardless of weight but a light fast will go further than a heavy fast.

So in summary based on the coalition of relativity, mass, volume, ball protective inflammatories, yes. The 45 is definitely the better defensive round.

LOL!
What are we talking about here anyway? Being a sniper?
Out to 25 yards it's a wash. And 25+ is ridiculous for SD.
Practice, Practice, Practice.

(got to go to the gym at 4:44am - talk to you all later)

[melissa5]

Wait until you can see the whites of their eyes, then blast em! :33:

[J4Cub]

If I remember right, you can take a gun with the barrel parrallel to the ground and fire a shot. If at the same time the bullet leaves the end of the barrel, you drop one, they will both hit the ground at the time. The difference is the bullet that was fired will hit the ground a ways away. How far away depends on the coefficent of friction or how smoothly the bullet passes through the air. The higher the COF, the less drag there is from the air to slow it down, so it will go farther, faster but will still hit the ground at the same time. That is what I remember anyway. And take that froma guy who doesn't remember what I had for breakfast this morning.

[BuckeyeBlast]

This never gets old:

[Russ]

Gravity is constant. If you fire a round perfectly horizontal (assuming the ground is constant vertically) and drop the same bullet at the exact same time from the same vertical distance to the ground they will both hit the Earth at the same time. Therefore, the greater the velocity the further the bullet will travel before it hits the ground. Resistance is a variable however, when discussing gravity. A feather for example will drop at a slower rate than a bowling ball due to resitance.

[wyntrout]

All of these things will be equal in a vacuum. The feather will hit the ground at the same time as a lead weight released from the same height... no air to slow the feather down.

We use a constant for gravity, but you have to remember the earth is not symmetrical nor a solid, single substance sphere, and it's rotating on its axis while revolving about the Sun in an elliptical orbit. All of these things and the proximity of the Moon and the Sun have their effect on everything on this planet, but for very short distances and most things that don't require great precision, a simple constant for gravity works well enough.

Jus' sayin'.

Wynn

[O'Dell]

It's all a Fig Newton Relatively Watson. Weight is a factor, heavy drops faster than light. Speed is a big factor regardless of weight but a light fast will go further than a heavy fast.

So in summary based on the coalition of relativity, mass, volume, ball protective inflammatories, yes. The 45 is definitely the better defensive round.



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Maybe Fig Newton would agree that weight is a factor with gravity, but I doubt that Issac would.

Velocity is the key here.