Kahr vs 1911 for CCW

[HadEmAll]

I would feel walking would be to risky......If you want to use my vehicle let me know....it's ready for action

Nah, we don't have the flash mob problem here in Texas. I think I'll be okay.

[jeepster09]

Alright then.....how about just the baby gun.....

[MikeyKahr]

Do you have one of those super shortys jeepster?

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[Bawanna]

Alright then.....how about just the baby gun.....

Is that sweet thing legal in MN? I like that very much.

[Dirt doc]

My first experiences with a handgun was with the 1911. I was a gunners mate on a west coast destroyer in the early 70's where I carried a 1911 on watch, maintained them and qualified Expert with one. Needless to say I became very familiar with and fond of the platform. Today I have several 1911's including a Kimber ultra crimson carry that I bought with the intention of it being my primary carry weapon. Then I picked up a PM9 to carry when shorts and a t shirt were called for. I love my 1911's but I find myself carrying the Kahr more than the Kimber. The Kahr's simplicity, weight and conceal-ability make it more attractive. Plus out to 15 yds. I shoot them both equally well. I've considered a PM45 but have a hard time justifying a $800-900 gun when the Kimber is the same caliber and relative size. My Kimber will get more attention this winter but the Kahr is sure nice to carry. I have to admit though that having to choose between a Kimber 1911 or the Kahr PM9 is a nice problem to have.

Dirt doc

[cw45fan]

... a good enough trigger and caliber, while having a size and weight which begs to be with me!

Yeah... That's it.

If I'm not a LEO and don't have a high-risk (for violence) occupation and don't have sworn enemies and live in a reasonably typical neighborhood... The likelihood that I'll ever need to actually fire my gun in SD is very very small... So I carry something light yet adequate... (for me mostly a CW9)... and ENJOY that lightness... To each, his own...

[FTG2Voge]

I have two basic options when it comes to CCW. I prefer to carry a 1911 whenever possible. The ergonomics and the trigger on a good 1911 simply cannot be beat in my opinion. However, in hot weather or other circumstances where it is difficult to carry one, my other choice is a CW9. I don't feel at all disadvantaged with it. I probably carry it 25% of the time.

[cgff]

I carried a 1911 seris 70 commander for a while and a kimber ultra carry but after moving to NC I found I carried my S&W 640 most of the time well a few weeks ago found a different looking Kahr P-40 (covert) balanced muzzle heavy liked it, short grip thought of it as a mini CCO (been lusting after one for years) P-40 covert mags hold 5+1 of .40 Ill be carrying my covert as soon as I get some more range time and a nice OWB.
Love my 1911s but I do not carry them like I did

[JimC]

If you knowingly go into harms way with a 1911 I'd call you flat out crazy.

I'll carry my 870 or possibly my Garand into harms way but I wont go with just a 1911.

I love my Kahr K9 for CCW or my Ruger SP101.

There are times being an LEO that you don't have the luxury of planning ahead all the time and you have to go with what you have at the moment or the situation could be worse.

Hind sight is always 20/20, especially if you haven't been there.

[jocko]

U guys normally have things we citizens don' thave on us. like radios for back up, extrra firepower in the vehicle. You r kind of traine dhelp very close by and of course the ability to carry a 17 round semi with possaably 4 extrra mags , handcuffs, mace all strapped on ur belt and the average citizen not evening giving u a double look where as I would stop traffic dressed that way, and I could be even legal . Nothing against a 1911, but if i was thinking about being in harms way I would want a high capacity double stack 9, 40, 45, but I want alot of rounds availalbe. Glock seems to rule the enforcement field, seems to be a reason for that to maybe.. no doubt hind sight is 20-=20, . It works every time..

[JimC]

Once again, the original question was...Kahr vs 1911 for CCW and 1911 being the operative indicator here as to weapon choice.

If you must keep bringing in the Glock line of pistols, I would gladly grab my G35 w/14+1 rounds of a good 180 gr. JHP or my G21 w/13+1 rounds of a 230 gr. JHP or even 230 gr. ball instead of my PM9 w/6+1 rounds of anything!

BTW jocko, I'm a retired LEO, not current so when you say you guys have at your disposal etc., etc., it no longer pertains to me. Been retired for nearly 15 years now and I don't carry a radio or the other "stuff" any longer.

Question, has the OP been around since posting?

[HadEmAll]

I'll carry my 870 or possibly my Garand into harms way but I wont go with just a 1911.

Would, say, clearing a house after a burglary be considered going into harm's way?

Come to think of it, just yesterday I just saw a TV program with a guy clearing a house with a Garand. Of course It was the Military Channel, he was wearing a 1940's style GI uniform, the house was in a little village in Germany, he had thrown a fragmentation grenade in through a window first, and he had three buddies standing outside, also with Garands.

Let's see, a 10 pound, 3.625 foot, 8-round Garand versus a 2.5 pound, 8.25" 8-round 1911 going around a corner in a sheetrock walled house. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm................


Now if the harm's way of the day was a remote mountainous area, or the latest big-city riot, the desireability of the two weapons might flip.

Not sure how we got from CCW to Garands, but these XXX versus YYY posts always seem to morph into something other than the original poster brought up.

Back to Kahr versus 1911 for CCW, no doubt this would have a different set of responses on the 1911 forum. Some people will never own a 1911 due to lack of interest, and some will never own a Kahr, for the same reason.

Me, as I've already stated CONCEALED CARRY both a full sized 1911, and one of several Kahrs. Here in Texas, we are issued a concealed HANDGUN license (CHL), not a concealed WEAPON license, so for just walking around the big city, shotguns, rifles, and grenades are out.

Anybody know for a fact where is NOT in harm's way?

[jlottmc]

Actually, long guns here are not legally out, but if one should "appear to be using or carrying in a threatening manner" then well game on. As far as bladed weapons, make sure that 5 1/2 inches and no double edge or switch blade, and you're good to go. Impact weapons and larger chemical dispersion devices are out though.

[OldLincoln]

I am too fond of my 45 1911 (Dad's Gun) to carry it, but I can. I have a good holster and my heavy duty suspenders and even spare mags. I wasn't going to carry it, then decided Dad would want me to, so I did for a bit, but it's the thought of loosing it if I used it that made me have it as a house gun.

I carried a Colt Mustang 380 (1911) in the pocket as my first carry gun. It fit very well but I could not get comfortable with the hammer back even though the safety was on. I guess I'm just sold on striker fired guns in general.

I want to carry 45 so the P45 is on my someday list. I will carry that one as my daily carry if it all fits right. Then may even trade my PM9 for another so I have all 45's (and I really like my PM9).

[jocko]

up until u stated ur a 15 year retired LEO, one would certainly had taken ur posts as one speaking of being a LEO now.