Chambering the first round, a slingshot modification

[gb6491]

When I started that thread I had read so much here on Kahrtalk that I didn't remember what I had read where. That said, I hope there was no misunderstanding that what I was doing was my own idea or something new. I just wanted to post some pics and share my results.

Thanks Greg for your valuable info posted here. It has definitely helped me in getting my minor nosedive issue resolved.

Hey Brent,
Thanks for the kind comments, they are very much appreciated.
As for the rest, I personally believe that you came up with a fix to your problem on your own. That it happened to mirror what I did here is a logical result because (as we both found) modifying the follower this way works. I like your post both for the information shared and the excellent photography. I linked it to this thread because this one has been made a sticky and thought by doing so yours would not slip into obscurity if other posts push it into the archives. Keep up the good work!
Regards,
Greg

[MO_Soldier]

Am I the only one who can slingshot his or her Kahr with no issues or modifications?

[stumprat]

Am I the only one who can slingshot his or her Kahr with no issues or modifications?

I was able to slingshot mine right out of the box. No break in required.

[Thunder71]

Am I the only one who can slingshot his or her Kahr with no issues or modifications?

With my PM9 it's finicky with ammo in this regard, Winchester PDX works great - others, not so much. Fires everything, just doesn't slingshot everything.

My MK9 doesn't seem to care what I feed it.

[gb6491]

Am I the only one who can slingshot his or her Kahr with no issues or modifications?

Naw, you're not the Lone Ranger My CW45 and K9 could/can chamber a round via "slingshot" without issue or modification. My CW9, while able to chamber a round this way, was just very intolerant of any lapse in technique, hence this modification. Now, it's very tolerant of technique: http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=4t7p8k&s=7
Regards,
Greg

[Bawanna]

Both of mine slingshot without issue. I think all will if executed properly. As Greg pointed out it doesn't take much to ruin the proper execution. Both mine are fairly forgiving so either I'm lucky or I'm doing it right. Maybe both.

[Thunder71]

... or you have poor vision and someone sold you a Keltec for the price of a Kahr.

Doh! Sorry man, you didn't even deserve that one... I'll be waiting in my timeout chair.

[Bawanna]

... or you have poor vision and someone sold you a Keltec for the price of a Kahr.

Doh! Sorry man, you didn't even deserve that one... I'll be waiting in my timeout chair.

Well it's got a K in the middle of the part you hold onto, I guess it could be a Keltec. How do I really tell for sure? I don't know much about these deadly lead blasters but I'm tryin to learn some as I go along.

The one says PM so I assume that means Probably Mostly Kahr?

The other just has a K so the jury is still out on that one, it's all steel though so maybe that Kel place is getting into real stuff?

[jocko]

i think ur right

Both of mine slingshot without issue. I think all will if executed properly. As Greg pointed out it doesn't take much to ruin the proper execution. Both mine are fairly forgiving so either I'm lucky or I'm doing it right. Maybe both.

I had a hard time at first with my Pm9 but after awhile it was a brreze. I think it was lack of proper technique more than just one tight ass kahr..We learn by doing.

[joe d]

I can slingshot both my CM9 and CW45...I did the mag follower file down on my CM9 as Greg suggested ,but not on the CW45...None the less, they both slingshot without a problem,first time,every time...

[Cokeman]

Am I the only one who can slingshot his or her Kahr with no issues or modifications?

I can.

[TriggerMan]

I think we ought to start a thread called: "Petition For Design Improvement For Kahr Magazines." Make it a sticky on the Magazines page. Start out with a statement that we don't buy Kahr's statements about perfect functionality and no need for changes. Point out how they have had to address the weaknesses in the design by putting instructions in the manual about using the slide stop to feed the first round. Put a long list of links to threads discussing magazine problems and, of course, highlight this thread as having some valid ideas for design changes. Encourage every member to sign the petition, and give a link to the thread to anyone reporting magazine problems. Then, get JohnH to present it to company management. Just saying.....

Take your statement, add a girlie picture and get banned before breakfast.

Where do I sign up?

[MO_Soldier]

I think we ought to start a thread called: "Petition For Design Improvement For Kahr Magazines." Make it a sticky on the Magazines page. Start out with a statement that we don't buy Kahr's statements about perfect functionality and no need for changes. Point out how they have had to address the weaknesses in the design by putting instructions in the manual about using the slide stop to feed the first round. Put a long list of links to threads discussing magazine problems and, of course, highlight this thread as having some valid ideas for design changes. Encourage every member to sign the petition, and give a link to the thread to anyone reporting magazine problems. Then, get JohnH to present it to company management. Just saying.....

Where do I sign! YAY ACTIVISM!!!

[MW surveyor]

CW9, no mods to anything (except the front sight), slingshots perfectly every time.

[JFootin]

Take your statement, add a girlie picture and get banned before breakfast.

Where do I sign up?

Where do I sign! YAY ACTIVISM!!!

Ah. I've learned a lot since posting that. I understand now why they say use the slide stop to chamber a round: because it takes strong hands and perfect technique to sling shot these tight guns, and so many just won't be successful at doing it. I also now understand that Kahr did not design the mags to fall free; it was their intention that you pull them out. For those who want them free falling, we have the easy fix. Now, the issues with the mags cracking and floor plates falling off need to stop. And most of all, a redesign of the followers to reduce that dip in the front that seems to contribute to nose dives (shoot, it goes way too far back!), and a once and for all fix for the follower rubbing on the mag catch, must be addressed! If the problems mentioned in the last 2 sentences were fixed, wouldn't that solve the majority of problem incidents that we see on this forum? Some improvements in quality control and 2 simple design changes to one part, the mag, would reap such huge benefits for overall customer satisfaction and for Kahr's reputation.