Which rifle

[Bawanna]

I just got back from a gunshow and one of my go to guys had a Ruger Gunsite SCout on his table. I'm in love. I was surprised at the weight or lack there of.
Less than 6 1/2 pounds on his scale. We were made for each other.

My son scored a Enfield Mark 4 -2, been looking, took both of our money's to get it but it's home.

[jlottmc]

Which one the Enfield or the scout rifle? Also, ammo for the Nagant is cheap, plus it really doesn't weigh that much. Compare it to an AK or 30-30 with wood furniture and it is still good to go. It is long though, and so is the bayonet, but there are a couple of carbine versions to be had. Did I mention cost effective? You can have a 91/30 and close to 500 rounds of ammo for about $200. Not that bad a choice. A bolt gun is still a viable option, it works, its easy to learn, and is effective especially at distance.

[Bawanna]

Son got the Enfield. I had to leave the scout behind at least till next month. He offered to just hang onto it but there's not even much hope of thinking I'll have 800 disposable dollars by next month.

Wife quickly pointed out that I was smart letting the boy buy and not buy myself which was like a cup of salt in an open wound.
Also pointed out that I already got a new gun this month, actually one a month for the last 3 months but one was for her, course that still counts towards my count which I'm not sure who's counting or why or what a month has to do with anything.

[jlottmc]

Ahhh wemins math. It'll make your head hurt. I have the same problem, I finally got the truck paid off, and still have yet to see dime one from the payment to play with.

[Tinman507]

Wife quickly pointed out that I was smart letting the boy buy and not buy myself which was like a cup of salt in an open wound.

Ok, Dr. Tinman prescribes a stiff Margarita to go with that salt. Partly in honor of Cinqo de Mayo but also because my bride is much more amenable to decisions like this when slurping down frozen Margaritas. Ply her with booze and then go for the Rifle.

This has been an unsolicted house call from Dr. Tinman. Do not try this at home. I am a trained professional.

[les strat]

For me:

Rifle - AK with a red dot. Hard to beat an AK

Shotty - Mossberg 18.5" 12 gauge persuader with AR stock and night sight bead

Pistol - G30 or S&W 629 .44 mag

But I sold them all when I realised that guns are evil

[jg rider]

Son got the Enfield. I had to leave the scout behind at least till next month. He offered to just hang onto it but there's not even much hope of thinking I'll have 800 disposable dollars by next month.

Wife quickly pointed out that I was smart letting the boy buy and not buy myself which was like a cup of salt in an open wound.
Also pointed out that I already got a new gun this month, actually one a month for the last 3 months but one was for her, course that still counts towards my count which I'm not sure who's counting or why or what a month has to do with anything.

Have you tried deniablity. Claim that it's always been in the safe. I've tried it.

[gm412]

I just got back from a gunshow and one of my go to guys had a Ruger Gunsite SCout on his table. I'm in love. I was surprised at the weight or lack there of.
Less than 6 1/2 pounds on his scale. We were made for each other.

My son scored a Enfield Mark 4 -2, been looking, took both of our money's to get it but it's home.

Surprised you even found one. I have been calling and searching the net for one without any luck. Really interested in this rifle since you pointed it out. Originally I was just going to get one rifle, but know I got an AR and looking for a gunsite scout. Looks like a very cool rifle. Like you though I have already exceeded my limit this month.

[Bawanna]

Surprised you even found one. I have been calling and searching the net for one without any luck. Really interested in this rifle since you pointed it out. Originally I was just going to get one rifle, but know I got an AR and looking for a gunsite scout. Looks like a very cool rifle. Like you though I have already exceeded my limit this month.

There were several of them on Gunbroker the last couple weeks, many left handers too. Was kind of surprised.

They are kind of hard to find in person, only saw one other one and that was a long time ago.

I kind of think if I only had one rifle this would be it but I am a little beyond one rifle so not really a good consideration but I still want one.

[gm412]

OK I found a Gunsite Scout only 30 min from my house. But it list for 999.00 and they said they will not come down since this gun is so hard to get. I see on the Internet when they are available they go for 750-850. Can't find any that are not on backorder. I want this rifle bad. But, I don't think I should pay that much.

[jlottmc]

Not to be a smartass but you basically have two choices: 1. buy it and forget about the price difference (Ruger is currently not accepting new orders until supposedly this month sometime in order to catch up) 2. wait. Those two options give you heart burn either way. I say if you want it bad enough and you have the cabbage, go for it and forget about the price difference. A year from now or maybe later you won't remember that part, and if you do it'll be because you had to think about it.

[Bawanna]

They are out there, not easy but findable. I would not pay 999 unless you need it today.

There are several on gunbroker. My dealer yesterday offered it to me for 800 out the door including tax.

I'd hunt the internet. Like everything else it might be a while but supply will catch up with demand and hopefully customers will remember these gouging dealers and teach them some lessons.

[getsome]

Anybody see the American Guns show last week where they made a Mares leg in 500 S&W? Now thats a bit of overkill but would be interesing...

For SHTF time I believe a good quality .22 rifle is a must have...You can carry a ton of ammo and it can be used against 2 leg predators as well as being able to take small game for food...I put a good .22 rifle (prefer lever action, no magazines to lose) right up there with food, water and shelter as a necessary survival tool...

Any good 12 or 20 gauge pump shotgun is also a must (Think ammo availability and go for the 20 as it is as effective as a 12 and can be had in 00 buck and slugs and in a SHTF situation 12 gauge will fly off the shelves much faster than 20)...A shotgun is THE tool to have when bad men come in the darkness of night...

I also think old school when it comes to a larger hunting/defense rifle and throw out a vote for a lever action in either 30-30 or .44 mag such as a Marlin 336 or Trapper .44 carbine...They will take most any game smaller than a bear and anything on 2 legs and ammo is everywhere...You can reload on the move and they are accurate out to 75-100 yards and even farther with a decent scope...A lever action is light weight, reliable as a hammer and need little or no maintenance even after firing hundreds of rounds....Sometimes old school is not so bad after all, look at how many 100 year old design 1911's are on the job!!!

I think ammo availability would be a major problem in a SHTF deal and 5.56 and .308 would rapidly become hard to find if not impossible even though both are NATO rounds you can bet the Military and Police aren't going to share theirs so if you plan to use these calibers IMHO it would be wise to stock up before the store shelves are bare....

Pick whichever design suites you but realize that when that time comes and I think it will, a rifle and pleanty of ammo will be indispensable to your future health and well being...

[tv_racin_fan]

Dunno how much it was but the local place had a lefty the other day.

[tv_racin_fan]

If you wait till SHTF ammo wont be an issue because there will not be any to be had unless you take it from someone else which makes 22lr, 9mm, 45acp, 308, and 556 among the better choices.